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Old 09-27-2011, 05:00 PM
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Thanks Jungle, starting with that vid, I ended up wasting several hours watching videos of classic jets - XB-70, CV-880/990, the Douglas 220 and so on. You just can't beat good old noisy, smokey, straight pipes! It sort of makes me miss my old Sabreliner 40 (though it really didn't smoke much).
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Thanks Jungle, starting with that vid, I ended up wasting several hours watching videos of classic jets - XB-70, CV-880/990, the Douglas 220 and so on. You just can't beat good old noisy, smokey, straight pipes! It sort of makes me miss my old Sabreliner 40 (though it really didn't smoke much).
That was not wasted time, CNN would have been wasted time.

The 50's and 60's were really the golden age of invention for military aircraft.

It will never be seen again.
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... The 50's and 60's were really the golden age of invention for military aircraft...
Very much the case from the propulsion, aerodynamics, systems, handling qualities, stability & control disciplines although advanced materials and avionics maturity came later. The Cold War did an awful lot for aeronautical engineering. It was clearly the steep part of the advancement curve.
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The good old days of smoke .
Wurtsmith Air Force Base. Air Show 1989. Oscoda, MI. - YouTube
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MITO + water injection = "The Sound of Freedom!" as SAC trained killers often said.
That clip takes me back...
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I'm glad I'm a young man in today's world and for multiple reasons, but it still bums me out thinking about all of the amazing aircraft that I never was able to see fly. The B-58 is one of those for me.

Heck, I only just saw my first F-4 fly earlier this year (which I was super excited about). But growing up during the 80's and 90's, I always wanted to see an F-14, but never did (even though it retired in 05, it just never happened). If only the CAF had enough scratch to get one of those flying!

Sadly, I'll never see any of the legendary fighters from the 50's or 60's fly, save for the F-86 which is still buzzing around the airshow circuit.
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I'm glad I'm a young man in today's world and for multiple reasons, but it still bums me out thinking about all of the amazing aircraft that I never was able to see fly. The B-58 is one of those for me.

Heck, I only just saw my first F-4 fly earlier this year (which I was super excited about). But growing up during the 80's and 90's, I always wanted to see an F-14, but never did (even though it retired in 05, it just never happened). If only the CAF had enough scratch to get one of those flying!

Sadly, I'll never see any of the legendary fighters from the 50's or 60's fly, save for the F-86 which is still buzzing around the airshow circuit.
You just need to spend more time at airshows
Just look at the variety of aircraft flying through the Collings Foundation.
Aircraft Collection - The Collings Foundation

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Old 09-28-2011, 07:34 PM
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You just need to spend more time at airshows
You're right about that. Made it to two airshows this year, which is a record for single year attendance for me.

I like the list of flyable aircraft in the Collings Foundation collection, but I still would love to see more jets from the 50's and 60's. I'm thinking century series jets in particular, but it has to be just too expensive, I'm sure.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:53 PM
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In the last few seconds you can see Brig. Gen. Stewart on the pilot's helmet.

Yes, that Stewart:James Stewart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
True, but I believe Stewart was a B-36 pilot after the war (B-17s and -24s during). Couldn't find it today, but I think he wasn't even a B-47 guy in the classic movie Strategic Air Command. Other research suggests he didn't fly at all after the war.

I don't think they could give him a front-seat ride with an IP in the back, so maybe it was just a publicity shot of him getting out of the Hustler.

The father of my EWO from the Gulf war was a B-58 EWO. According to my buddy, his Dad had over 1000 hours of supersonic time. The B-58 would takeoff, hit the tanker, climb over 50,000 ft, and run at Mach-2-ish to the target area, "drop" the nuke, then repeat for back home.

Neat clip, Jungle. Thanks.
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The father of my EWO from the Gulf war was a B-58 EWO. According to my buddy, his Dad had over 1000 hours of supersonic time. The B-58 would takeoff, hit the tanker, climb over 50,000 ft, and run at Mach-2-ish to the target area, "drop" the nuke, then repeat for back home.

Neat clip, Jungle. Thanks.
One of my college professors that flew back then said that if a B-58 took off from Alaska for a delivery on the Kamchatka Penninsula, it would have to refuel around 5-6 times on the round trip IIRC.
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