How deal with Captain unfriendly to Jumpseatr
09-20-2011, 07:55 AM
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How deal with Captain unfriendly to Jumpseatr
...to commuters?
So at the gate I saw a fellow pilot talking to the agent about getting onto the flight. The guy looked like he was trying to get home, and explained to the agent that he'd was able to ride in the cockpit if necessary.
When I got to the cockpit, I explained the situation to the CA, but he didn't seem to care. I tried one or two more times to bring it up before we left the gate, but with no luck.
I realize that the Captain's decision is final, but I really felt bad about leaving the guy. I've flown with the captain before, and he's one of the nicer ones, so this kind of surprised me. Do you guys know of any diplomatic solutions to this sort of problem if it happens again?
So at the gate I saw a fellow pilot talking to the agent about getting onto the flight. The guy looked like he was trying to get home, and explained to the agent that he'd was able to ride in the cockpit if necessary.
When I got to the cockpit, I explained the situation to the CA, but he didn't seem to care. I tried one or two more times to bring it up before we left the gate, but with no luck.
I realize that the Captain's decision is final, but I really felt bad about leaving the guy. I've flown with the captain before, and he's one of the nicer ones, so this kind of surprised me. Do you guys know of any diplomatic solutions to this sort of problem if it happens again?
09-20-2011, 07:58 AM
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Was your Captain a commuter? I've never flown with a commuter captain who wouldn't bust ass to get a jumpseater onboard. But the guys who live locally and drive to work sometimes seem to not understand how commuting is for the rest of us and won't put nearly the effort into getting someone onboard.
Just my experience so far.
Just my experience so far.
09-20-2011, 08:08 AM
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Bottom line is the jumpseat belongs to the CA. It is one of those situations as an FO where you just have to bite the bullet. If you've brought it up multiple times, he or she probably doesn't want anyone riding upfront. It is sad, but there are folks out there that are like that.
09-20-2011, 09:07 AM
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Bottom line is the jumpseat belongs to the CA. It is one of those situations as an FO where you just have to bite the bullet. If you've brought it up multiple times, he or she probably doesn't want anyone riding upfront. It is sad, but there are folks out there that are like that.
09-20-2011, 09:17 AM
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...to commuters?
So at the gate I saw a fellow pilot talking to the agent about getting onto the flight. The guy looked like he was trying to get home, and explained to the agent that he'd was able to ride in the cockpit if necessary.
When I got to the cockpit, I explained the situation to the CA, but he didn't seem to care. I tried one or two more times to bring it up before we left the gate, but with no luck.
I realize that the Captain's decision is final, but I really felt bad about leaving the guy. I've flown with the captain before, and he's one of the nicer ones, so this kind of surprised me. Do you guys know of any diplomatic solutions to this sort of problem if it happens again?
So at the gate I saw a fellow pilot talking to the agent about getting onto the flight. The guy looked like he was trying to get home, and explained to the agent that he'd was able to ride in the cockpit if necessary.
When I got to the cockpit, I explained the situation to the CA, but he didn't seem to care. I tried one or two more times to bring it up before we left the gate, but with no luck.
I realize that the Captain's decision is final, but I really felt bad about leaving the guy. I've flown with the captain before, and he's one of the nicer ones, so this kind of surprised me. Do you guys know of any diplomatic solutions to this sort of problem if it happens again?
09-20-2011, 09:59 AM
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09-20-2011, 11:00 AM
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I'm guessing you fly a two pilot airplane. It's pretty hard to depart when there's only one pilot in the cockpit. I've walked off to help a guy out, and I would hope someone would do it for me. In the end, we left on time with the jumpseater. Of course, this is a last resort. There is no reason for any pilot to take his personal aggresion out on anyone else.
09-20-2011, 02:38 PM
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I'm guessing you fly a two pilot airplane. It's pretty hard to depart when there's only one pilot in the cockpit. I've walked off to help a guy out, and I would hope someone would do it for me. In the end, we left on time with the jumpseater. Of course, this is a last resort. There is no reason for any pilot to take his personal aggresion out on anyone else.
I personally would have come pretty close to walking off, but if he threatened my job it probably would not be worth it at that point. If the guy was that big of tool I wouldn't be worried in the least about offending him though.
09-20-2011, 03:13 PM
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Situations like these are yet another reason I hate political correctness! What's wrong with asking..."so you're really gonna be an *** and leave this guy behind?" If there is an open seat and the guy is trying to get home...why would you leave him?
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