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09-20-2011, 03:44 PM

#11

lakehouse

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

Situations like these are yet another reason I hate political correctness! What's wrong with asking..."so you're really gonna be an *** and leave this guy behind?" If there is an open seat and the guy is trying to get home...why would you leave him?

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09-20-2011, 11:34 PM

#12

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How a captain is to a jumpseater from another carrier is how he is to people generally. This rule works 100% of the time.

If you can be rude to a stranger in the same tight-knit industry, you're an aye-hole to most people.

09-21-2011, 03:55 AM

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NightIP

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

Agreed. No reason to tiptoe around these jackasses. I've found putting things rather bluntly to a guy who's used to pushing crewmembers around gets attention.

09-21-2011, 03:56 AM

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flyn2001

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Brosmanship level..."LOW"!

09-22-2011, 04:54 AM

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supersix-4

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Maybe you should have gone back to the gate and told the gate agent to let him on? You are just as responsible for leaving someone there in this case.
force the CA to tell them no instead of lettimg him be so wishy washy.

09-23-2011, 06:38 AM

#16

Groundhog

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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

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When I got to the cockpit, I explained the situation to the CA, but he didn't seem to care. I tried one or two more times to bring it up before we left the gate, but with no luck.

What supersix said.

You should have brought the JS down the jetway with you, and let him introduce himself to the Captain.

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09-27-2011, 04:06 PM

#17

Phantom Flyer

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Hold on Buckaroo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey9554

I'm guessing you fly a two pilot airplane. It's pretty hard to depart when there's only one pilot in the cockpit. I've walked off to help a guy out, and I would hope someone would do it for me. In the end, we left on time with the jumpseater. Of course, this is a last resort. There is no reason for any pilot to take his personal aggresion out on anyone else.

As a life long commuter, I don't want to leave a J/S at the gate; however, I'm not sure I'd take it as my duty to walk off a flight to make the point. You don't know what may have transpired prior to you seeing this other pilot in the boarding area and possibly there may be other circumstances involved. In any case, at several companies I am familiar with, that would get you a nice personal visit with your Chief Pilot. Trying to defend a "Gee Mr. Chief Pilot, I didn't think it was right to leave a J/S'er in the boarding area so I decided to delay the flight to make a point" would probably get you some time on the beach.

There are ways to handle a Captain who may not grasp the commuters life, but I'm not sure that's one of them.

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