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Old 08-15-2011, 09:53 AM
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Video from the same flight. Pretty poor filming quality, so I apologize. Turbulence + manually focused DSLR = shaky view. Still kind of interesting though.

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I had the opportunity last month to play the role of a TOI. What it looks like from us slow pokes...

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Cool pictures, and unless I'm seeing things, he's carrying live weapons.
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Picture #3 on post 50 looks like he may be taking a closer look at you too

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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
I had the opportunity last month to play the role of a TOI. What it looks like from us slow pokes...
What were you flying and what sort of speeds? Cool pics - I do like #3!
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I was in a C182, slogging along at about 115kts.

The viper pilot, while playing his role as the intercepting aircraft, announced that he was armed. Indeed he was. And is that some sort of targeting/designating pod underneath the fuselage pointed at me?

But yes, it was a fun flight.
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
I was in a C182, slogging along at about 115kts.

The viper pilot, while playing his role as the intercepting aircraft, announced that he was armed. Indeed he was. And is that some sort of targeting/designating pod underneath the fuselage pointed at me?

But yes, it was a fun flight.
Some form of LANTRIN I'd guess - but I don't know what exact model.
Some F-16 guy will chime in soon.

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article2.html

WHERE were you during this intercept?

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Old 08-15-2011, 02:26 PM
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I always wondered why they don't have A-10's in the area to do the slower-speed intercepts, which seem to be 90%+ since GA is so evil!

Original topic, I don't buy the whole thing on her. She lives in that area and should know that he comes in for visits. I don't think it should be any sort of revocation, but maybe a 30-60day suspension? This doesn't mean I agree with the whole concepts of TFR's anyways. They merely announce exactly where anyone/event important will be and put's a bullseye on it. Real smart DHS!
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So what's the low speed envelope of a F-16 if AZFlyer is doing 115kts. Don't say 115kt either.
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
I always wondered why they don't have A-10's in the area to do the slower-speed intercepts, which seem to be 90%+ since GA is so evil!

Original topic, I don't buy the whole thing on her. She lives in that area and should know that he comes in for visits. I don't think it should be any sort of revocation, but maybe a 30-60day suspension? This doesn't mean I agree with the whole concepts of TFR's anyways. They merely announce exactly where anyone/event important will be and put's a bullseye on it. Real smart DHS!
A-10 doesn't have an air-air radar, BVR capability, or the speed/climb to make a timely intercept. Plus it's not something they train to.
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A-10 doesn't have an air-air radar, BVR capability, or the speed/climb to make a timely intercept. Plus it's not something they train to.
Agree on last, but the first two seem a bit counter-intuitive. Are you really going to fire BVR on an 'unknown rider'? Or are you going to VID with a visual intercept (assuming VMC)?
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