F-16s Intercept 75 Year Old Pilot
08-13-2011, 04:29 AM
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You're point is irrelevant....
08-13-2011, 07:24 AM
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Re: F-16s Intercept 75 Year Old Pilot
The NORAD mission is threefold. NORAD’s first responsibility is to provide surveillance and control of the airspace covering North America, specifically the airspace of Canada and the United States...
NORAD defines air sovereignty as providing surveillance and control of the territorial airspace, which includes:
1. intercepting and destroying uncontrollable air objects;
2. tracking hijacked aircraft;
3. assisting aircraft in distress;
4. escorting Communist civil aircraft; and
5. intercepting suspect aircraft, including counterdrug operations and peacetime military intercepts.
NORAD defines ‘sovereign airspace’ as: the airspace over a nation’s territory, internal waters, and territorial seas. NORAD’s territorial seas extend 12 miles from the continental United States, Alaska, and Canada. Sovereign airspace above a nation’s territory is unlimited.
1. intercepting and destroying uncontrollable air objects;
2. tracking hijacked aircraft;
3. assisting aircraft in distress;
4. escorting Communist civil aircraft; and
5. intercepting suspect aircraft, including counterdrug operations and peacetime military intercepts.
NORAD defines ‘sovereign airspace’ as: the airspace over a nation’s territory, internal waters, and territorial seas. NORAD’s territorial seas extend 12 miles from the continental United States, Alaska, and Canada. Sovereign airspace above a nation’s territory is unlimited.
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties...NORAD, in a written statement, confirmed that such hijacking exercises occurred.
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08-13-2011, 10:13 AM
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If I were operating anywhere around a major metropolitan area - I'd look.
If this is when you were operating in the outback...I might let the NOTAM slide - but I'd still take my hit for not checking if I happen to stumble across the President's fishing hole accidentally.
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If this is when you were operating in the outback...I might let the NOTAM slide - but I'd still take my hit for not checking if I happen to stumble across the President's fishing hole accidentally.
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You are 100% correct it SHOULD be done every time. Familiarity breeds complacency I'm afraid.
08-13-2011, 12:18 PM
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64J -
Yes - they probably thought about it since Tom Clancy wrote something about such an occurrence is one of his many techno-thrillers.
You are still only showing that you know how to copy and paste information out of an article
Having NORAD in existence isn't the same thing as having fighters airborne 24/7 ready to jump on the slightest penetration of the ADIZ. How many "unknown rider" calls do you think actually led to intercepts prior to 9/11?
Again, you do realize that are speaking with many on this forum who actually have working knowledge of the TTPs right? Less talk and more listen might be the recipe for success here for you
USMCFLYR
Yes - they probably thought about it since Tom Clancy wrote something about such an occurrence is one of his many techno-thrillers.
You are still only showing that you know how to copy and paste information out of an article
Having NORAD in existence isn't the same thing as having fighters airborne 24/7 ready to jump on the slightest penetration of the ADIZ. How many "unknown rider" calls do you think actually led to intercepts prior to 9/11?
Again, you do realize that are speaking with many on this forum who actually have working knowledge of the TTPs right? Less talk and more listen might be the recipe for success here for you
USMCFLYR
08-13-2011, 12:41 PM
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Yes - they probably thought about it since Tom Clancy wrote something about such an occurrence is one of his many techno-thrillers.
08-13-2011, 02:07 PM
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64J -
Yes - they probably thought about it since Tom Clancy wrote something about such an occurrence is one of his many techno-thrillers.
You are still only showing that you know how to copy and paste information out of an article
Having NORAD in existence isn't the same thing as having fighters airborne 24/7 ready to jump on the slightest penetration of the ADIZ. How many "unknown rider" calls do you think actually led to intercepts prior to 9/11?
Again, you do realize that are speaking with many on this forum who actually have working knowledge of the TTPs right? Less talk and more listen might be the recipe for success here for you
USMCFLYR
Yes - they probably thought about it since Tom Clancy wrote something about such an occurrence is one of his many techno-thrillers.
You are still only showing that you know how to copy and paste information out of an article
Having NORAD in existence isn't the same thing as having fighters airborne 24/7 ready to jump on the slightest penetration of the ADIZ. How many "unknown rider" calls do you think actually led to intercepts prior to 9/11?
Again, you do realize that are speaking with many on this forum who actually have working knowledge of the TTPs right? Less talk and more listen might be the recipe for success here for you
USMCFLYR
No, Doug Master's really didn't fly F-16s to unnamed Arab country that resembles Libya to rescue his dad. Nor did Steven Seagal walk from plane to plane through a refueling boom. No you don't steer a 747 on the ground like they did in "Air Force One" with the yokes.
These are the same people who think the cops or government will be there to protect them. Craziness.
08-13-2011, 11:49 PM
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Hell, we had all kinds of air/land/sea power in Hawaii on Dec 7th, 1941, how did that work out for us... I'll bet those Navy guys had trained to an aerial attack as well! A military radar station even picked up the incoming strike package and wrote it off to a schedule delivery of B-17s (mindset!). Many links in the chain broke on both Dec 7th and 9/11...as in the case after Pearl Harbor, mindsets, posture and procedures changed!
Have you ever even sat an alert period?
This!
Have you ever even sat an alert period?
This!
08-14-2011, 04:32 AM
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Four pages and no one has asked it yet...
How the he11 does a fighter jet slow down enough to intercept a cub???
How the he11 does a fighter jet slow down enough to intercept a cub???
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08-14-2011, 05:13 AM
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Now that's a good question! I went to college with the son of the chief test pilot of the F-16 way back in the day...saw some neat videos WAY before they got to the public domain. Don't recall seeing any of them flying slow enough to hang with a Cub....unless they were about 45-50 degrees nose up riding on the thrust...and the view was pretty darned limited!
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