Flight Returns Because Of Fistfighting
06-02-2011, 02:15 AM
#13
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I miss the ole days really !
Unbeleivable the things that set other people off ,I mean really a reclining seat of all things ?
Fred
06-02-2011, 04:12 AM
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I have to tell you.....i just took an AmTrak train from OKC to SAT this past weekend. IF YOU HAVE THE TIME.....what a great way to travel! No TSA, no FA's constantly on you about everything, incredible seat / leg room with seats that recline like 30+ degrees and room for me to stretch all the way out. Lounge car, dining car with a half roasted chicken with brown rice and veggies that was better than I get at home half the time
, cafe car with hot and cold food and drinks, etc....Anyways - back to the seat/leg room on coach.........and reclining seats leading to fistfights and no one being charged.
If the instigators actions did not intefere with the flight crew performing their duties then I would like to know what that definition is nowadays!USMCFLYR
06-02-2011, 05:38 AM
#15
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The dumbest thing about this incident is that fighters were scrambled. TSA is security theater at airports. Scrambling F-16's for an incident such as this is security theater in the air.
This didn't happen because of a reclining seat. This happened because of bureaucracy.
This didn't happen because of a reclining seat. This happened because of bureaucracy.
And while TSA is certainly one of the more screwed up federal circuses, they do serve a function. It's actually hard to crash an airliner with IEDs which fit in your shoes or underwear, and good luck hijacking one unless you bring a platoon with heavy weapons. But it's real easy to bring one down with a carry-on full of commercial HE. Could we re-organize them and eliminate fraud, waste, abuse, and inefficiency? I think we're on the same page there...
06-02-2011, 07:06 AM
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06-02-2011, 04:07 PM
#19
What’s it doing now?
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It wouldn't benefit ME, per se. Or anyone on board, really. Just call it a last line of defense.
I would do my best to get it on the ground anywhere as quickly as possible because who knows what was actually going on back there.
USMCFLYR:
I think he was trying to say that they were scrambled for the worst case scenario where a fireball in the sky would be preferable to that plane ending up somewhere else if you catch my drift. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, and I recognize this probably isn't other pilots opinion either.
06-02-2011, 04:14 PM
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USMCFLYR:
I think he was trying to say that they were scrambled for the worst case scenario where a fireball in the sky would be preferable to that plane ending up somewhere else if you catch my drift. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, and I recognize this probably isn't other pilots opinion either.
USMCFLYR
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