Any rumblings of increasing retirement age??
02-22-2011, 05:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure there's no possible way it would happen. You could make a case that with people living healthier lives and better medical care that age 65 was reasonable (especially since age 60 was arbitrary in the first place).
But at some point people do wear out, and most 70 year olds do not belong in airline cockpits. Even if you went to the great expense of more sophisticated and frequent medical testing, the statistical risk of sudden incapacitation starts to get too close to home. Also while a 69 year old might be able to pass a medical, sim, cognitive, and dexterity tests as well as a 50 YO, after 12 hours duty flying the back side, the older guy is going to degrade a lot more.
02-25-2011, 08:33 AM
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Nice..... My father turned 65 this year and has recently retired. A couple of years ago I started noticing his difficulty with negotiating parking situations and his inability to accurately judge distances and angles. Of course, being my father I have enough respect for him not to expose his shortcomings in these situations. However, when it comes to aviation and the safety of flight you could be sure I'd sound off if he told me he wanted to fly an airliner for another 5 years, or more.
Seriously gentlemen, enough is enough. The Government and Airlines lack of planning should not constitute a compromise of safety with 65+ year old human beings piloting commercial aircraft. We need to make all of our voices heard if this comes to fruition. This is simply unacceptable.
Seriously gentlemen, enough is enough. The Government and Airlines lack of planning should not constitute a compromise of safety with 65+ year old human beings piloting commercial aircraft. We need to make all of our voices heard if this comes to fruition. This is simply unacceptable.
02-25-2011, 08:48 AM
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I doubt the airlines want to go there either, if a first class medical (with EKG, full blood panel, treadmill, MRI, and cognitive analysis) cost $4000 they know that they would end up having to pay for it one way or another...probably for all pilots over 50 or something like that. Also they would likely lose more young pilots to such an exam than they would gain by keeping a few old guys.
02-25-2011, 09:12 AM
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If the govenment mandates you retire at a given age, your Social Security and Medicare benefits begin the day after your mandated retirement birthday.
02-25-2011, 09:14 AM
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You hit this nail right on the head! People need to be careful what they wish for.
02-26-2011, 06:33 PM
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02-26-2011, 06:43 PM
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Several years ago Europe started an Age 70 committe.
Recently the highest court in the EU ruled for a worker who was laid off due to age. The worker won, and it sounds like age limits for workers will be rescinded.
Two Air Canada pilots sued and won after being laid off at age 65 and were re-instated.
Recently the highest court in the EU ruled for a worker who was laid off due to age. The worker won, and it sounds like age limits for workers will be rescinded.
Two Air Canada pilots sued and won after being laid off at age 65 and were re-instated.
02-26-2011, 08:46 PM
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Several years ago Europe started an Age 70 committe.
Recently the highest court in the EU ruled for a worker who was laid off due to age. The worker won, and it sounds like age limits for workers will be rescinded.
Two Air Canada pilots sued and won after being laid off at age 65 and were re-instated.
Recently the highest court in the EU ruled for a worker who was laid off due to age. The worker won, and it sounds like age limits for workers will be rescinded.
Two Air Canada pilots sued and won after being laid off at age 65 and were re-instated.
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