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Old 02-15-2011, 03:40 AM
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People are delusional if $50 from each unionized pilot anually is going to cover the cost of a govt run system.
What is there, maybe 75,000 unionized pilots? I don't know, but even at that number assuming all bought in, that would be just $3.8 million.... The feds spend that much annually just studying parking lot design. If it were that cheap, it would be done already, if not by industry, then just by TSA to take employees out of the system.
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I'll pay. Anyone that thinks the govt is paying for this with all the cutbacks coming is a little delusional.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:49 AM
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Thanks. It takes effort. I would like to thank everyone who made this moment necessary. Thank you.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:56 AM
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Can someone please find where it says, "....flight crew members are required to proceed to the front of the security lines at all airports, in order to protect the integrity of the schedule."

If this is not in the FOM, then why do we pilots/FA's insist on cutting in line? We are doing TSA, and the Company a big favor! If we went to the back of the line and resisted TSA's urges to allow us to cut...I would guess someone would pay the bill for CrewPass overnight. Can you imagine the delays this would cause?

Maybe we should have a "Customer Priority Month" campaign. In appreciation of the significant sacrifices that the traveling public have made for crewmembers at the TSA lines around the country...we flightcrewmembers will not CUT!!
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Can someone please find where it says, "....flight crew members are required to proceed to the front of the security lines at all airports, in order to protect the integrity of the schedule."

If this is not in the FOM, then why do we pilots/FA's insist on cutting in line? We are doing TSA, and the Company a big favor! If we went to the back of the line and resisted TSA's urges to allow us to cut...I would guess someone would pay the bill for CrewPass overnight. Can you imagine the delays this would cause?

Maybe we should have a "Customer Priority Month" campaign. In appreciation of the significant sacrifices that the traveling public have made for crewmembers at the TSA lines around the country...we flightcrewmembers will not CUT!!

A novel thought, with merit.^^^^^

Someone asked earlier in the thread if pilots should pay for F/As and other employees too. That seemed a little out of left field.

We've all had the experience of the F/As cutting in front of us in line, heck I've had the experience of pilots cutting in front of me in line after I've already cut. Yup.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
If this is not in the FOM, then why do we pilots/FA's insist on cutting in line? We are doing TSA, and the Company a big favor! If we went to the back of the line and resisted TSA's urges to allow us to cut...I would guess someone would pay the bill for CrewPass overnight. Can you imagine the delays this would cause?
You're obviously not management material.

If we start taking delays by not cutting in line, they wouldn't give us CrewPass.
All they would do is make our hotel pick-up time 20 minutes earlier.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:20 AM
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You're obviously not management material.

If we start taking delays by not cutting in line, they wouldn't give us CrewPass.
All they would do is make our hotel pick-up time 20 minutes earlier.
exactly! Nobody cares as long as your there at show time and the flight leaves on time. Crewmembers usually cut cause we have our own line, and as far as i have seen in the past years, pax are pretty good about letn a crew go by. If u dont want to cut in line, you take the 6am and i will be on the 630 van, and get some coffee too while your there
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
You're obviously not management material.

If we start taking delays by not cutting in line, they wouldn't give us CrewPass.
All they would do is make our hotel pick-up time 20 minutes earlier.
Well, maybe...but how many min rest layovers do we have system-wide? How much is it gonna cost the Co. if they had to build these rotations (IROP contingencies included) to accommodate TSA security line requirements? Add in the new rest requirements? Maybe have to hire more pilots if you look at it from a macro-system-wide platform! Bottom line: less efficiency drives up the cost of the operation...maybe, just maybe, above the cost of CrewPass.

However, if we all cave to mgt again, we can start funding CrewPass ourselves...then it will be ATC upgrades (how about $1000 per pilot), then...I don't know, how about runway signage light bulbs?
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:57 AM
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Just imagine if you could get that in LHR or CDG... "hey guys, I'm just going to hang out on the bus here and keep napping while yall go stand in line."
I kind of do the same thing with Global Entry... when we come in to T4 at JFK, I walk smartly to the front of the line and out the door while the rest stand behind the emirates crew getting fingerprinted and photographed and... yup.. since the gubbamint is about to be bankrupt and isn't gonna pay for convenience of pilots... it would be worth $50.
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Originally Posted by captscott26
I'll pay. Anyone that thinks the govt is paying for this with all the cutbacks coming is a little delusional.
This^^^^^^^^^^
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