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Old 01-10-2010, 07:16 PM
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I look forward to seeing her restored.

From Seattle Times:

Inside Boeing's old Plant 2 building on East Marginal Way, former Boeing executive and sometime company gadfly Bob Bogash led a reporter on a tour Saturday of what he considers "the most beautiful airplane ever built."

Built not by Boeing but by Lockheed Martin, the plane is a Super Constellation, or "Connie."

Its distinctive retro beauty includes wingtip fuel pods and a tail with triple vertical fins. Bogash gushed over the "long, sinuous, curvaceous and sensual" fuselage that's reminiscent of the lines of a dolphin — the product he says of "the engineer as an artist."

Local News | Curvaceous 'Connie' plane rescued from oblivion | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Be sure and visit Kansas City Downtown airport's airline museum, home of the Save A Connie (as well as a DC3, Martin 404, and a wealth of ancient airline, mostly TWA memorabilia. Docents will walk you through the pax cabin of the Connie.
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Twice I've seen working Connies, both times it was Adkins out of McAllen, TX (long gone.) First time the plane was on the ramp at DFW and a couple Feds were ramping it while a motor for a boat in Ensenada was loaded. The second time was a RVR 1800 night at IAH. You heard it coming down the taxiway before you saw it, rumbling and burping. Expander tube brakes screeching. Finally a dim taxi light appeared out of the mist with little flames licking the exhaust stacks. I've got no idea where that plane ended up.
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Certainly the Connie is in the top five sexiest airplanes ever built.
YouTube - Flying with Arthur Godfrey 1953 Vintage Aviation Film Eastern Air Lines Lockheed Constellation
(and if you want a song about the Martin 4-0-4 Silver Eagle seen in the video as operated by Southern Airways click on the link at the bottom SO404 Welcome To Southern Airways)

Frankly, the reason I am less and less enamored with flying today is planes have lost their artistic lines and have gotten too automated (but I guess my aviatar shows that http://www.hermantheduck.org/). Oh well, guess I am just too romantic: I'd rather sail on a square rigger than the Love Boat.
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Certainly the Connie is in the top five sexiest airplanes ever built.
YouTube - Flying with Arthur Godfrey 1953 Vintage Aviation Film Eastern Air Lines Lockheed Constellation
(and if you want a song about the Martin 4-0-4 Silver Eagle seen in the video as operated by Southern Airways click on the link at the bottom SO404 Welcome To Southern Airways)

Frankly, the reason I am less and less enamored with flying today is planes have lost their artistic lines and have gotten too automated (but I guess my aviatar shows that North Central Airlines history - hermantheduck.org - home page). Oh well, guess I am just too romantic: I'd rather sail on a square rigger than the Love Boat.
Topping the weather in turbine pressurized comfort though...

DC-6 and -7 are up there on the sexiness factor too.
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Certainly the Connie is in the top five sexiest airplanes ever built.
YouTube - Flying with Arthur Godfrey 1953 Vintage Aviation Film Eastern Air Lines Lockheed Constellation

At min 21 the capt. sets it up for cruise and busts out a pack of cigarettes. Awesome, I love it.
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"A couple hours have gone by... a little snooze... and now I'll show you how we deal with our approach and landing..."

Different times, for sure.
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Originally Posted by jcaplins
At min 21 the capt. sets it up for cruise and busts out a pack of cigarettes. Awesome, I love it.

"Oh boy, this is the life."

0.o

Anyone know if cockpits had ashtrays back then?
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At min 21 the capt. sets it up for cruise and busts out a pack of cigarettes. Awesome, I love it.
What do you expect? Chesterfield was one of his main sponsors. Godfrey died of emphysema and had a lung cut out due to cancer.

And I don't know how you'd get 300 mph out of a Martin, Vne is 261 kts. Normal cruise was about 190 which is why Convairs ate their lunch, getting 200 knots for the same fuel burn.
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And I don't know how you'd get 300 mph out of a Martin, Vne is 261 kts. Normal cruise was about 190 which is why Convairs ate their lunch, getting 200 knots for the same fuel burn.
Also, the 202 accidents made everyone scared of anything with 'Martin' painted on it, *and* Martin didn't have very good sales contracts. The airlines that put down for 202s and 404s could - and did - back out, without substantial penalty.

That said, if you parked a 404 and a 440 next to each other, I'd take the 404. I'll pass on the big augmentors...
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