I can not believe this guy is on the street!
08-20-2009, 01:43 PM
#11
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you poor misguided soul. you have absolutely no idea about what you speak. some of us were there and know what happened. you definitely were not. Its sad that those who are protected so well by the the loss of those willing to protect freedom are so willing to cast the first stone.
Shame on you
Mods... btw i would say the same or more choice words if I were speaking to this individual face to face
Shame on you
Mods... btw i would say the same or more choice words if I were speaking to this individual face to face
08-20-2009, 02:05 PM
#12
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Joined APC: May 2009
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My argument is simply that imperialist nations always attempt to justify their acts of aggression against other nations under the excuse of altruism.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
08-20-2009, 02:10 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
My argument is simply that imperialist nations always attempt to justify their acts of aggression against other nations under the excuse of altruism.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
08-20-2009, 02:32 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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Posts: 665
My argument is simply that imperialist nations always attempt to justify their acts of aggression against other nations under the excuse of altruism.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
This is the best and most unselfish country there is. We has fought more and spent more lives and money to give freedom to others. You should be pround of our country. The mistakes we have made (and yes there are some of course) are pale. Have some pride. I know I am even though it's hard too watching what is going on with entitlement programs. God Bless America.
Last edited by USMCFLYR; 08-20-2009 at 03:37 PM.
08-20-2009, 02:39 PM
#15
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08-20-2009, 02:46 PM
#16
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Gliderboy: Being a member of the military myself, I would appreciate if you would not Desecrate the honor of those who died in Iraq (and else where) protecting your right to slander their actions.
08-20-2009, 02:59 PM
#17
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Position: none ya...
Posts: 1,154
PS sorry mods if I deserve a point, I'll gladly take it, I really tried to be as clean as I could be...but I cant sit back on this one
08-20-2009, 03:30 PM
#18
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08-20-2009, 03:36 PM
#19
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you poor misguided soul. you have absolutely no idea about what you speak. some of us were there and know what happened. you definitely were not. Its sad that those who are protected so well by the the loss of those willing to protect freedom are so willing to cast the first stone.
Shame on you
Mods... btw i would say the same or more choice words if I were speaking to this individual face to face
Shame on you
Mods... btw i would say the same or more choice words if I were speaking to this individual face to face
Gliderboy - you are crossing a line into political debate not welcomed on the forum. Change the line of discussion another direction. All others - please don't take the bait and dive further into political or religious debate on this subject or the thread will have to be closed.
To those who believe the mods have heavy hands in closing threads - here is your chance to prove us wrong. Take this request for action seriously.
USMCFLYR
08-20-2009, 04:07 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 238
My argument is simply that imperialist nations always attempt to justify their acts of aggression against other nations under the excuse of altruism.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
Whether it was the British killing helpless third-worlders during their empire building period, the Japanese during their invasion of Southeast Asia, or the Americans during their recent invasion of Iraq — all of these aggressor nations justified their actions by stating they were actually trying to help those peoples.
"Carrying the white man's burden" - British
"Freeing Asia from Western imperialism" - Japanese
"Spreading democracy" - U.S.
If you read the propaganda from those countries' news organizations at the time, they are almost word for word the same.
It's all really too depressing for words.
And with that, I'll remove myself from this discussion.
We didnt go into Iraq to conquer and control, we went in, and are leaving. Unlike old century emperial japan, germany, or china. The only underlying theme of our democracy that is fundamentally wrong is that it protects people like gliderboy, whom bastardizes the troops who gave him the freedom to slander them.
I'm gonna take a quote from grumpy old men and say that he should 'pull his lip over his head, and swallow'. (nothing political here)
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