OldAg84

I get the anti-crossing a picket line rhetoric. I once drove 4 hours to a factory where they were on strike (kind of wish management told me). I told the picketers my business and asked their permission. They graciously said yes, they had no problem. I went inside and did what I came to do. As an aside, that plant closed a year later.

I think atp's point is there is a time and place for everything. Kicking a known individual anonymously on an internet BB smacks of the same thing the Westboro Baptist Church jerks do at military funerals. Except they show their faces.

There is a right time and right place for everything- someone's public demise is not one.

OldAg84

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TheDashRocks

I disagree with your parallel. Other posters can speak for themselves. I feel that what I have said is not at all the same as the Westboro Baptist Church crowd. They presume to know someone's eternal destination based on supposed knowledge of how someone lived his or her life. All I know of the deceased pilot is that he once did something despicable. I assume that good came of his life as well. He may have later sought redemption for helping to break a strike. His Creator knows where the scale balances, I do not. My hope is for the peaceful repose of his soul and the well-being of his family. My hope is also that people stop crossing picket lines.

A noteworthy event in this man's life is an act that some strongly disapprove of. It is unrealistic to expect no discussion of this at the time of his death. When Pete Rose passes, will no one mention gambling on sports?

OldAg84

I didn't SAY you said the same thing, I said you are in the same class of people. If you are not man/woman enough and willing to go through the receiving line at the funeral home and say, "I'm sorry for your loss, but your husband/father/son/brother/uncle/friend did a despicable act....", then you shouldn't say it here. The Westboro Baptist folk think they're right as well, and I don't care to see or hear from them either, in any forum or venue.

We're not talking in generalities here, but about a specific person in a public form- liking what he did or not.

dojetdriver

Really? What have I been "turned into"?

I'll ask you the same question. Have you EVER been in a labor dispute and walked a picket line?

I'll ask you another question Have you EVER stood up with your coworkers at your own personal/financial sacrifice to try and make where you work a better place? Have you ever had the sack to say that you aren't going to let management walk all over you, cut your pay, raise your health insurance, decrease what work rules you have, etc? Have you seen people who find being treated like this completely acceptable?

I don't know about anybody else, but I don't think I'd fall into any of the above. The times I started making money it got taken away so fast that I never got used to it. Hence, it's probably the LAST thing I'd worship.

I wonder, since you bothered to post that quote, I wonder what you would do for money?

And just so we're clear, what did I EVER say about the deceased individual? Can you please find something I said about him? All I did was ask a question of another poster who is a bit naive.

I wonder if the situation was reversed. The person that crossed the picket line was the one in the situation you presented. Do you think he'd say something along these lines?

"I'm sorry for your loss. Years ago when he stood up and sacrificed money to make where we work a better place, I was undercutting him, and you guys, his family by going to work the whole time. Again, I'm sorry for your loss"

Do you think somebody that crosses a picket line is "man/woman enough" to do that?

OldAg84

I don't cross picket lines, well I guess at least not w/o permission of the picketers. Say what you want in the privacy of the cockpit, a bar, or in public on the picket line. Ostracize whomever. But to call a recently deceased person the things he's been called on this board- it shows zero class.

I've got no real dog in this fight (unions/picket lines/scabs), but I stand by what I said. Almost everybody has a few skeletons in their closet- should everybody and anybody bring them up when we pass?

But hey, I'm done and I'll say no more and walk away unimpressed.

dojetdriver

And I'll stand by what I said, as well as what I asked you that you can't answer.

Fair enough, feeling is mutual. As far as being unimpressed that is. Like i said, if you could answer what I asked you, might be different, sorry.

OldAg84

A time and place for everything. That's all I'm saying. Now I'll go away.

atpwannabe

I've got to give the ole FedEx agreement on those comments......."Absolutely, positively".

It's just been my experience that when someone does pass away, we try to remember them for the good that they did. We all fall short; we all miss the mark. Can you imagine hearing about someone's shortcomings or character defects at their funeral?

I, too, stand by what I've said about this particular situation.



atp

highsky

Then stay out of it.