First Bird Strike as an airline pilot
06-17-2009, 05:51 PM
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Both engines were still turning (windmilling) and the engine driven pumps were still providing pressure. With the loss of primary AC power and above 100kts, the emergency generator (Ram Air Turbine) drops out and provides electrical power which in turn can power some electric hyd pumps.
The 'bus has 3 hyd systems, Green, Yellow and Blue. The Blue sys is powered by the blue hyd pump OR the RAT.
With both engines failing, they would have lost the two engine generators, the RAT dropped and provided back up hyd along with pressure from the windmilling engines.
I don't recall but I believe they went to CONFIG2. (the 'bus does not have flap angles but uses 0 (flaps up) and 1, 2, 3 and 4. Config 1 and 2 are routine flap settings for T/O with occasionally 3. 3 is also used for landing in gusty winds and 4 is normal landing flaps.
The 'bus has 3 hyd systems, Green, Yellow and Blue. The Blue sys is powered by the blue hyd pump OR the RAT.
With both engines failing, they would have lost the two engine generators, the RAT dropped and provided back up hyd along with pressure from the windmilling engines.
I don't recall but I believe they went to CONFIG2. (the 'bus does not have flap angles but uses 0 (flaps up) and 1, 2, 3 and 4. Config 1 and 2 are routine flap settings for T/O with occasionally 3. 3 is also used for landing in gusty winds and 4 is normal landing flaps.
06-18-2009, 12:11 PM
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Well, from a civilian standpoint, I always thought Ram Air was an extreme high velocity propulsion effect, but I figured once again I don't even know what I don't know.
Yes, my apologies for de-railing what started out as a funny thread. That's what I kind of meant to start with - first posters about who-knows-what. Though that was disrespectful on my part (and I knew it even when I did it), I certainly appreciate the hospitality and raw knowledge from you folks. Fascinating.
Thanks again, and I'm finally outta here. Start a new funny thread, and I won't wreck it. Thank y'all SO much for the ride, and y'all have a nice flight.
peewee
Yes, my apologies for de-railing what started out as a funny thread. That's what I kind of meant to start with - first posters about who-knows-what. Though that was disrespectful on my part (and I knew it even when I did it), I certainly appreciate the hospitality and raw knowledge from you folks. Fascinating.
Thanks again, and I'm finally outta here. Start a new funny thread, and I won't wreck it. Thank y'all SO much for the ride, and y'all have a nice flight.
peewee
06-20-2009, 01:27 AM
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"Y'all" is a proper noun in the South. It is a conjunction of "You" and "All." It is perfectly acceptable to greet a lone person with, "How y'all doin'?"
The use of "Y'all" in an indicator of embedded Southern heritage.
It does not in any way imply that we are stupid. It does, however, indicate that perhaps we are all ignorant. Those are two different things. We'll figure it out eventually, especially if we make the effort to ask for the answer.
The use of "Y'all" in an indicator of embedded Southern heritage.
It does not in any way imply that we are stupid. It does, however, indicate that perhaps we are all ignorant. Those are two different things. We'll figure it out eventually, especially if we make the effort to ask for the answer.
06-23-2009, 07:36 AM
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06-27-2009, 03:45 AM
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1st bird strike as an airline pilot.
Does new hire initial training count?
If so, on climb out, the number 2 p&w PT6 sucked a large bird of prey on my very first training flight (back in those days we trained in aircraft).
As the cabin was filling with the rich aroma of roasted chicken, I asked the instructor pilot if we were going to return to base.
He turned off the right bleed system, said "no" and we continued with a double training session (mine and my training partner's).
Welcome to the airlines...
(Technical information: the 'owl' met his demise on one of the prop blades, his remains ended up against the inlet screen, and his mass was sufficient to yaw the aircraft about 3 degrees on impact...)
Does new hire initial training count?
If so, on climb out, the number 2 p&w PT6 sucked a large bird of prey on my very first training flight (back in those days we trained in aircraft).
As the cabin was filling with the rich aroma of roasted chicken, I asked the instructor pilot if we were going to return to base.
He turned off the right bleed system, said "no" and we continued with a double training session (mine and my training partner's).
Welcome to the airlines...
(Technical information: the 'owl' met his demise on one of the prop blades, his remains ended up against the inlet screen, and his mass was sufficient to yaw the aircraft about 3 degrees on impact...)
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