Search

Notices
Hangar Talk For non-aviation-related discussion and aviation threads that don't belong elsewhere

Even More TSA BS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-15-2008, 05:47 PM
  #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Ottopilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 2,576
Default

Don't have a SIDA badge and never did. We don't get them at my airline. I only have an empoyee ID. I don't know anything about SIDA, so why should I be expected to challenge anyone about theirs?
Ottopilot is offline  
Old 08-15-2008, 09:06 PM
  #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
SomedayRJ's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: BE50C (A), BE95 (A), C172S (B)
Posts: 349
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
They usually stand out, even without the badge...they don't look like a ramper or other useful body, they have that government aura around them. You just don't know whether they're TSA or FAA until you ask!
"Hello gentlemen! Two-for-one on the suits?"

SomedayRJ is offline  
Old 08-16-2008, 06:41 PM
  #13  
Whatever the need
 
jban642's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: on the back of the donkey
Posts: 323
Default

I hate the TSA there a useless group of people that barely can do there job and should be asking can I super size that then screening passengers. Never had a good experience with TSA.
jban642 is offline  
Old 08-16-2008, 06:46 PM
  #14  
Gets Weekends Off
 
wrxsteve's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Student Pilot
Posts: 204
Default

i think as pilots we should start messing with TSA, they want to play games then lets rock
wrxsteve is offline  
Old 08-17-2008, 05:56 PM
  #15  
Asphalt Cowboy
 
HoboPilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Shotty!!
Posts: 248
Default

Originally Posted by wrxsteve
i think as pilots we should start messing with TSA, they want to play games then lets rock
How's this? Make friends with your local airport security folks, call them up on your cell phone when you see a suspicious person walking around the ramp without a badge. If they find out it's a TSA agent, maybe they'll take them in and interrogate them a bit to put a scare into them

In all seriousness though, the TSA does this at my airport, and my university routinely sends out normal looking people onto the ramp without the proper ID showing. However, we get $20 if we catch the person. I think this program would be better received by pilots and ground handlers if there were some positive motivation behind it, rather than only being fined for poor performance.
HoboPilot is offline  
Old 08-17-2008, 06:23 PM
  #16  
Flying Farmer
 
Ewfflyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Turbo-props' and John Deere's
Posts: 3,160
Default

Originally Posted by HoboPilot
How's this? Make friends with your local airport security folks, call them up on your cell phone when you see a suspicious person walking around the ramp without a badge. If they find out it's a TSA agent, maybe they'll take them in and interrogate them a bit to put a scare into them

In all seriousness though, the TSA does this at my airport, and my university routinely sends out normal looking people onto the ramp without the proper ID showing. However, we get $20 if we catch the person. I think this program would be better received by pilots and ground handlers if there were some positive motivation behind it, rather than only being fined for poor performance.
Yeah, one problem, who's going to cough up the $20 at the big airports!
Ewfflyer is offline  
Old 08-17-2008, 06:34 PM
  #17  
Gets Weekends Off
 
robthree's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 777, sofa
Posts: 1,183
Default

IAH had the $20 reward program several years ago... it may have been pre-9/11. The "un-badged" inspector would produce his/her credentials when challenged and hand over a double sawbuck to whomever asked them for their badge.


Those of you who have been through SIDA training should know how to respond to an un-badged individual. It was in that mind-numbingly boring training class you had to take to get the badge in the first place.

I prefer making a call for a local LEO to come investigate a suspicious individual. If its a Fed or a TSA agent, it should keep them busy for a few minutes. If its a bad guy then the Statie is the appropriate person to be having a discussion with them anyhow.
robthree is offline  
Old 08-17-2008, 07:53 PM
  #18  
Asphalt Cowboy
 
HoboPilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Shotty!!
Posts: 248
Default

Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
Yeah, one problem, who's going to cough up the $20 at the big airports!

Good point. I'm sure there's someone out there who would love to buy all those confiscated items for cheap and resell them. Maybe take the proceeds from those items and put them towards garnering a culture of proactive security measures being taken by everyone on the ramp. Just an idea. Or else just use tax dollars.

I think I have to agree with robthree though. Pilots and ramp personnel should be utilized as observers, not enforcers. The enforcing should be left up to those who are aptly named Law Enforcement Officers. Although the observations by alert airline personnel will certainly help in the process.
HoboPilot is offline  
Old 08-17-2008, 08:07 PM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buggs's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 FO
Posts: 137
Default

If you notice it from the cockpit, just tell ground to get the airport police over to you. Watch how fast this stuff stops when the police complain to TSA about the wasted fuel and time.
buggs is offline  
Old 08-20-2008, 06:58 PM
  #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
DamonMeyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Ramen-eating duck driver
Posts: 255
Default

Originally Posted by wrxsteve
i think as pilots we should start messing with TSA, they want to play games then lets rock
Yeah there's some good ideas circulating on the "TSA Breaks planes at ORD" thread.
DamonMeyer is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vagabond
Leaving the Career
2
08-14-2008 12:41 AM
robthree
GoJet
101
08-12-2008 10:27 PM
bryris
Regional
27
08-07-2008 04:38 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices