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12-26-2005, 04:25 PM
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Good for you. Best of luck. Like josh mentioned you will not know how it all will turn out until you try. However having a plan B is a great choice. My only regrets are that we all can't get together and share a few pitchers. I am not a gloomy gus in person. It just hurts me to see people throw away their young lives. I just got off the phone with a fellow that I know from another forum. He just sold his house, broke it off with his fiancee and bought a Taylorcraft with the intentions of becoming a bush pilot this spring. He is spending the rest of his house money on pilot training. This guy is 28 and is a successful chef. He will probably wind up in a pine box by the end of the summer. His parents are doing everything they can to stop him. I have seen it many times before, but it is too late.
SkyHigh
Good for you. Best of luck. Like josh mentioned you will not know how it all will turn out until you try. However having a plan B is a great choice. My only regrets are that we all can't get together and share a few pitchers. I am not a gloomy gus in person. It just hurts me to see people throw away their young lives. I just got off the phone with a fellow that I know from another forum. He just sold his house, broke it off with his fiancee and bought a Taylorcraft with the intentions of becoming a bush pilot this spring. He is spending the rest of his house money on pilot training. This guy is 28 and is a successful chef. He will probably wind up in a pine box by the end of the summer. His parents are doing everything they can to stop him. I have seen it many times before, but it is too late.
SkyHigh
12-26-2005, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Chris H
Good for you. Best of luck. Like josh mentioned you will not know how it all will turn out until you try. However having a plan B is a great choice. My only regrets are that we all can't get together and share a few pitchers. I am not a gloomy gus in person. It just hurts me to see people throw away their young lives. I just got off the phone with a fellow that I know from another forum. He just sold his house, broke it off with his fiancee and bought a Taylorcraft with the intentions of becoming a bush pilot this spring. He is spending the rest of his house money on pilot training. This guy is 28 and is a successful chef. He will probably wind up in a pine box by the end of the summer. His parents are doing everything they can to stop him. I have seen it many times before, but it is too late.
SkyHigh
Good for you. Best of luck. Like josh mentioned you will not know how it all will turn out until you try. However having a plan B is a great choice. My only regrets are that we all can't get together and share a few pitchers. I am not a gloomy gus in person. It just hurts me to see people throw away their young lives. I just got off the phone with a fellow that I know from another forum. He just sold his house, broke it off with his fiancee and bought a Taylorcraft with the intentions of becoming a bush pilot this spring. He is spending the rest of his house money on pilot training. This guy is 28 and is a successful chef. He will probably wind up in a pine box by the end of the summer. His parents are doing everything they can to stop him. I have seen it many times before, but it is too late.
SkyHigh
I am young, but fortunately, I have a few things going for me right now, that should put me in a good position when I start looking for my first airline/flying job. I am in college, but I recently joined the LA Air National Guard to be an F-15 Crew Chief. One benefit is that I have my college tuition 100% paid. As well, I get the GI bill, and since my tuition is covered anyway, I plan to use it toward flying. I am getting my ratings from a local flight instructor, at a local FBO, where my flight training will be a third of what most people's cost. This means entering a flying job with no college debt, or debt from flight training.
My plan is to apply for, and hopefully get an F-15 pilot slot with my ANG unit, and also, eventually, get on with an airline. One of my friends/co-workers dad is a UPS CA, and he has told me if I fly for the ANG for 5 to 6 years, I can probably go straight to a major and skip the regionals. Even if I don't get a pilot slot, I will have a good number of LORs, as many of the pilots at my unit also fly for the airlines, and as a crew chief, I will get to know them pretty well. As has been mentioned, things don't always work out as planned, so I assume some adjustments to the above will have to be made, but hopefully it all works out close to plan. Also, as I have said, I am not majoring in aviation, and do have a back-up. There is also the chance of working full-time with the Guard, not flying, if flying with the Guard, and airline do not work out.
12-27-2005, 12:51 AM
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Thoughts on flying
I think we can all gather from this conversation that flying is difficult, and although I don't have a family yet I know I wouldn't want to be in another city for the majority of their lives. I also know that the more time you spend at a job the more you learn about ways to make your time at work more effecient even if you weren't bilding senority that will yeild better routes.
With all this in mind I think most of us agree to that flying is an absolute love that can't be lived without. It is probably good thing that management doesn't know how much we love flying our they might talk us into doing this for free.
Hope everyone had a great Christmas regardless of where it was spent and a happy New Year to all.
With all this in mind I think most of us agree to that flying is an absolute love that can't be lived without. It is probably good thing that management doesn't know how much we love flying our they might talk us into doing this for free.
Hope everyone had a great Christmas regardless of where it was spent and a happy New Year to all.
12-27-2005, 06:22 AM
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Xtreme,
Sometimes flying seems more like a disease. I have seen it make men destroy themselves in pursuit of it. One of the hardest things I have ever had to do was to turn my back on it. Even now I have friends who call on occasion with offers of help to get on with their airlines. The power is strong but I must resist. I know where those paths lead.
SkyHigh
Nice work ChrisH, I think the military is an excellent option. As a military pilot you would be well treated with good pay and benefits.
Sometimes flying seems more like a disease. I have seen it make men destroy themselves in pursuit of it. One of the hardest things I have ever had to do was to turn my back on it. Even now I have friends who call on occasion with offers of help to get on with their airlines. The power is strong but I must resist. I know where those paths lead.
SkyHigh
Nice work ChrisH, I think the military is an excellent option. As a military pilot you would be well treated with good pay and benefits.
12-27-2005, 06:58 AM
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ChrisH,
Reconsider using the GI Bill for flight training. Its not worth it to , IMHO, squander the benefit on flight trainining - unless you have completed your MS/MBA while on active dury.
May I suggest the following: get you BS, MBA/MS paid for by the USAF. If you leave before getting your MBA / MS - use the GI Bill for that - its a better long term / plan b investment.
Also, remember the AF will pay for one certification. I'm getting mine in CISCO programming / networking to add to my BS and technical training in telecomm...Many of my co-workers have gotten their Certified financial planner education out of the way for 0$$$ out of pocket...
Again, congratulation on having put together a good plan and on serving...I hope we can get together this summer and log a few hours of x-country time. I like to fly to N.Louisiana and Houston area when I'm in town...
I see F-15 all day long at Langley...Now I'm seeing more F22s - they are now operational and ready to deploy.
-LA
Reconsider using the GI Bill for flight training. Its not worth it to , IMHO, squander the benefit on flight trainining - unless you have completed your MS/MBA while on active dury.
May I suggest the following: get you BS, MBA/MS paid for by the USAF. If you leave before getting your MBA / MS - use the GI Bill for that - its a better long term / plan b investment.
Also, remember the AF will pay for one certification. I'm getting mine in CISCO programming / networking to add to my BS and technical training in telecomm...Many of my co-workers have gotten their Certified financial planner education out of the way for 0$$$ out of pocket...
Again, congratulation on having put together a good plan and on serving...I hope we can get together this summer and log a few hours of x-country time. I like to fly to N.Louisiana and Houston area when I'm in town...
I see F-15 all day long at Langley...Now I'm seeing more F22s - they are now operational and ready to deploy.
-LA
12-27-2005, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
ChrisH,
Reconsider using the GI Bill for flight training. Its not worth it to , IMHO, squander the benefit on flight trainining - unless you have completed your MS/MBA while on active dury.
May I suggest the following: get you BS, MBA/MS paid for by the USAF. If you leave before getting your MBA / MS - use the GI Bill for that - its a better long term / plan b investment.
Also, remember the AF will pay for one certification. I'm getting mine in CISCO programming / networking to add to my BS and technical training in telecomm...Many of my co-workers have gotten their Certified financial planner education out of the way for 0$$$ out of pocket...
Again, congratulation on having put together a good plan and on serving...I hope we can get together this summer and log a few hours of x-country time. I like to fly to N.Louisiana and Houston area when I'm in town...
I see F-15 all day long at Langley...Now I'm seeing more F22s - they are now operational and ready to deploy.
-LA
Reconsider using the GI Bill for flight training. Its not worth it to , IMHO, squander the benefit on flight trainining - unless you have completed your MS/MBA while on active dury.
May I suggest the following: get you BS, MBA/MS paid for by the USAF. If you leave before getting your MBA / MS - use the GI Bill for that - its a better long term / plan b investment.
Also, remember the AF will pay for one certification. I'm getting mine in CISCO programming / networking to add to my BS and technical training in telecomm...Many of my co-workers have gotten their Certified financial planner education out of the way for 0$$$ out of pocket...
Again, congratulation on having put together a good plan and on serving...I hope we can get together this summer and log a few hours of x-country time. I like to fly to N.Louisiana and Houston area when I'm in town...
I see F-15 all day long at Langley...Now I'm seeing more F22s - they are now operational and ready to deploy.
-LA
Since I have my tuition paid for anyway, I figured the GI Bill would be good to spend toward flying. I chose the $10K bonus, and GI Bill Kicker. Since I have not received the benefit of either, as of yet, as I have yet to go to basic training, and tech. school, I have thought about substituting the GI Bill Kicker with the $20K Student Loan Repayment, which would allow me to get a Masters, etc. I am not sure though. Any advice?
Are you enlisted, or an officer? I thought about enlisting active duty, but I wanted to finish my degree first. I chose to join the ANG instead. I know the AF is not accepting prior service right now, but if by the time I graduate, they again are, I may still go to active duty. Why did you join the AF? Would you do it again? Just curious, as I am still contemplating a few things for after I graduate.
-Chris
12-27-2005, 10:23 AM
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ChrisH,
I was enlisted - completed my degree on active duty - then commissioned. I don't regret a minute of my time in the AF. It has given me everything. Sure there have been sacrifices, but they have been well worth it.
I joined for the job training, retirement, and travel options. Also, I was a bit on the slow in school and didn't have any other options.
-LA
I was enlisted - completed my degree on active duty - then commissioned. I don't regret a minute of my time in the AF. It has given me everything. Sure there have been sacrifices, but they have been well worth it.
I joined for the job training, retirement, and travel options. Also, I was a bit on the slow in school and didn't have any other options.
-LA
12-27-2005, 11:15 AM
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LA,
A 152 would be an awesome idea !! If I were you I would look in the usual publications then I would drive around your local airports and try to find a few good prospects. You can take the tail numbers to landings.com and find out the owners name and address. The call to inquire if they are interested in selling or taking on a partner. If you like I could email you some classified ads?
SkyHigh
A 152 would be an awesome idea !! If I were you I would look in the usual publications then I would drive around your local airports and try to find a few good prospects. You can take the tail numbers to landings.com and find out the owners name and address. The call to inquire if they are interested in selling or taking on a partner. If you like I could email you some classified ads?
SkyHigh
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