giving up the dream?
12-03-2005, 10:47 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by UConnQB14
my only fear is that i will get so in depth in this budweiser thing, ..., or lose all currency and forget how to fly all together...
Good luck!
12-03-2005, 07:53 PM
#14
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UConnQB14,
Read this post carefully! I was in law school back in 84-85 finished my first year, thought it was pretty easy, my fellow classmates were not the kind of guys and girls I was used to hanging with...very much into "chasing the buck" and for many of them being a lawyer was a means to an end $$$$. I knew I didn't belong with them...My best friend taught me to fly in a C-152 and getting my private ticket was the highest goal I had...Then one day I ran into an Air Force recruiter and started BS-ing with him. Turns out I had a pretty good resume, and an excellent chance at getting a slot in USAF Pilot training! I never dreamed I could do something like that! Always thought Air Force pilots were calculus wiz-kids and Academy Grads. Long story short..6 months later with 58 hours total time, I'm flying a T-37! and 5 months after that I broke the sound barrier!!! The moral of the story Follow your HEART..I knew If I stayed in law school I'd have a great future, I also knew I'd always regret not having the "balls" to chase a dream. I can't tell you how many times I've been at parties, weddings etc when some guy comes up to me and tells me how he always wanted to fly jets but......fill in the blanks...don't be one of those people..You've found an area of comfort in Conn due to your football career and you can ride a few coatails for a while, but deep in your soul you'll forever wonder "should I" CHASE YOUR DREAM!! $50,000 a year jobs are a dime a dozen, especially for a college grad football hero...There are 2 famous quotes I have hanging in my study one by Teddy Roosevelt, the other a Robert Frost poem
The Roosevelt quote paraphrased
"The credit belongs to the man in the arena, who does not sit idly by and watch others. Whose face is marred by sweat, dust, and blood..This man spends himself in a worthy cause..He knows the sheer exhilaration of achieveing greatness and the bitter agony of failure..Yet if He fails, He fails DARING GREATLY..So that his place shall never be with those COLD TIMID SOULS who know neither great victory nor bitter defeat"
"I have taken the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference"
Robert Frost
Don't end up like all these corporate, minivan driving guys who wished they could have Dared Greatly!!! Your football experience has certainly given you a taste of what I'm trying to express, don't step down from the mountain...keep climbing to the summit!
Good Luck
Vito
Read this post carefully! I was in law school back in 84-85 finished my first year, thought it was pretty easy, my fellow classmates were not the kind of guys and girls I was used to hanging with...very much into "chasing the buck" and for many of them being a lawyer was a means to an end $$$$. I knew I didn't belong with them...My best friend taught me to fly in a C-152 and getting my private ticket was the highest goal I had...Then one day I ran into an Air Force recruiter and started BS-ing with him. Turns out I had a pretty good resume, and an excellent chance at getting a slot in USAF Pilot training! I never dreamed I could do something like that! Always thought Air Force pilots were calculus wiz-kids and Academy Grads. Long story short..6 months later with 58 hours total time, I'm flying a T-37! and 5 months after that I broke the sound barrier!!! The moral of the story Follow your HEART..I knew If I stayed in law school I'd have a great future, I also knew I'd always regret not having the "balls" to chase a dream. I can't tell you how many times I've been at parties, weddings etc when some guy comes up to me and tells me how he always wanted to fly jets but......fill in the blanks...don't be one of those people..You've found an area of comfort in Conn due to your football career and you can ride a few coatails for a while, but deep in your soul you'll forever wonder "should I" CHASE YOUR DREAM!! $50,000 a year jobs are a dime a dozen, especially for a college grad football hero...There are 2 famous quotes I have hanging in my study one by Teddy Roosevelt, the other a Robert Frost poem
The Roosevelt quote paraphrased
"The credit belongs to the man in the arena, who does not sit idly by and watch others. Whose face is marred by sweat, dust, and blood..This man spends himself in a worthy cause..He knows the sheer exhilaration of achieveing greatness and the bitter agony of failure..Yet if He fails, He fails DARING GREATLY..So that his place shall never be with those COLD TIMID SOULS who know neither great victory nor bitter defeat"
"I have taken the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference"
Robert Frost
Don't end up like all these corporate, minivan driving guys who wished they could have Dared Greatly!!! Your football experience has certainly given you a taste of what I'm trying to express, don't step down from the mountain...keep climbing to the summit!
Good Luck
Vito
12-04-2005, 06:22 AM
#16
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Joined APC: May 2005
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Dreams
UConn,
For every Vito there are a few dozen sad stories of broken men who lost everything chasing a dream that was never meant to be. I understand the "follow your heart" thing but a little caution is wise. It could take you 10 years and most everything else in your life that you value to make it to earning 50K as a pilot.
Stories about guys like Vito are rare and unknowingly launch a thousand pilot careers into oblivion. Everyone loves to pass along the hero tale, but no one wants to hear about the 21 year old who was killed on approach flying night cargo or of the 58 year old who committed suicide after he was laid off from his last chance airline.
The average experience in aviation is of being chewed up and spit out. I would have a strong plan A with aviation being a smaller plan B. Try a little. You might just end up being the next Vito, but always keep it as a back up plan.
People like to accuse me of being negative. I am not. My attitude and opinions come from experience and I believe that mine is from the majority.
SkyHigh
For every Vito there are a few dozen sad stories of broken men who lost everything chasing a dream that was never meant to be. I understand the "follow your heart" thing but a little caution is wise. It could take you 10 years and most everything else in your life that you value to make it to earning 50K as a pilot.
Stories about guys like Vito are rare and unknowingly launch a thousand pilot careers into oblivion. Everyone loves to pass along the hero tale, but no one wants to hear about the 21 year old who was killed on approach flying night cargo or of the 58 year old who committed suicide after he was laid off from his last chance airline.
The average experience in aviation is of being chewed up and spit out. I would have a strong plan A with aviation being a smaller plan B. Try a little. You might just end up being the next Vito, but always keep it as a back up plan.
People like to accuse me of being negative. I am not. My attitude and opinions come from experience and I believe that mine is from the majority.
SkyHigh
Last edited by SkyHigh; 12-04-2005 at 06:24 AM.
12-04-2005, 06:32 AM
#17
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SkyHigh,
Just remember He's a young kid with no strings or committments, now is the time to follow a dream, its too late after the wife, kids, and mortgage! Then He'll be lika all those legions of "wanabee, minivan drivers out there who took the road More Travelled"
By the way, You should be proud of the fact that you've been marred by the mud, dust, and blood of the battle!!You've seen defeat, but don't let it beat you!! Like the quote says...You are not like those COLD TIMID SOULS!
Just remember He's a young kid with no strings or committments, now is the time to follow a dream, its too late after the wife, kids, and mortgage! Then He'll be lika all those legions of "wanabee, minivan drivers out there who took the road More Travelled"
By the way, You should be proud of the fact that you've been marred by the mud, dust, and blood of the battle!!You've seen defeat, but don't let it beat you!! Like the quote says...You are not like those COLD TIMID SOULS!
12-04-2005, 08:31 AM
#18
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Dear Vito
Dear Vito,
Actually he does have a betrothed one and much else to loose. Even the young and unattached have friends, family, self respect, community, financial security and the enthusiasm of youth. A few years in aviation can wipe away all those things and since you like to quote authors, once gone "you can never go home again".
As for myself next year I will turn 40. I have been blessed with a wonderful wife and soon will have four young sons. Aviation has consistently kicked me to the curb. My career momentum is gone. At this point my odds are extremely dim and the price way too high. If you have any ideas I would love to hear them but as you know it takes a lot of money to properly care for a family. Just last week I turned down an interview with a local cargo outfit. The job would have meant moving my family from our small farm paradise and into a 2 bedroom apartment in a tuff urban neighborhood. At my stage in life I need a real job that offers real hope and pay. Nothing is on the horizon.
Perhaps some day I will be able to venture back. Thanks for your encouragement and support.
SkyHigh,
Actually he does have a betrothed one and much else to loose. Even the young and unattached have friends, family, self respect, community, financial security and the enthusiasm of youth. A few years in aviation can wipe away all those things and since you like to quote authors, once gone "you can never go home again".
As for myself next year I will turn 40. I have been blessed with a wonderful wife and soon will have four young sons. Aviation has consistently kicked me to the curb. My career momentum is gone. At this point my odds are extremely dim and the price way too high. If you have any ideas I would love to hear them but as you know it takes a lot of money to properly care for a family. Just last week I turned down an interview with a local cargo outfit. The job would have meant moving my family from our small farm paradise and into a 2 bedroom apartment in a tuff urban neighborhood. At my stage in life I need a real job that offers real hope and pay. Nothing is on the horizon.
Perhaps some day I will be able to venture back. Thanks for your encouragement and support.
SkyHigh,
12-04-2005, 10:05 AM
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One thing that 6.5 years as an FO with finally a salary back to the 40K a year that I was making 8 years ago (before flying) is that you have to decide for yourself what is right. I know that sounds really easy to say and really hard to do, but take in all the advice and stories and make the best decision you can with that info, on that day, at that time, and then don't look back. IMHO you are young and with no kids, wife, mortgage, you do have the unique ability to do anything for a little time. If what ever you try doesn't workout, switch. But I will say that even as bitter as I am flying along with guys next to me that got there because of some misarbitrated contract decision, I still love flying and it would be really hard to give it up.
12-04-2005, 10:53 AM
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Don't end up like all these corporate, minivan driving guys who wished they could have Dared Greatly!!! Your football experience has certainly given you a taste of what I'm trying to express, don't step down from the mountain...keep climbing to the summit!
Good Luck
Vito[/QUOTE]
Well I guess I'm just a corporate minivan driver. Do they have a seperate forum for dirtbags like me?
Good Luck
Vito[/QUOTE]
Well I guess I'm just a corporate minivan driver. Do they have a seperate forum for dirtbags like me?
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