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Old 08-12-2007, 10:32 AM
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I flew through OK city in 1989 and met a coperate pilot for Phillips oil that had a pilot's license that said all aircraft sigined by one of the Wright brothers I do not remember which brother, but he let me see it and said the FAA did not like him having it but he would never surender it.
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Old 08-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by skywriter
I flew through OK city in 1989 and met a coperate pilot for Phillips oil that had a pilot's license that said all aircraft sigined by one of the Wright brothers I do not remember which brother, but he let me see it and said the FAA did not like him having it but he would never surender it.
If genuine, the signature would have been Orville's. He did supervise pilot licenses for the Department of Commerce. Wilbur died in 1912.

Of course, such a license would not "grandfather" someone into exemption from requirements which were instituted later, such as type ratings, medical exams, etc.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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Plus, he has a very impressive "I love me" wall in the AOC.

John Lear: fruitcake of the fruitiest variety.

http://www.greatdreams.com/John-Lear.htm
Holy cow, you weren't kidding. I just spent an hour reading some of that, as well as some other things on that site. There are some serious wack-jobs out there. It makes you wonder how those guys get any sleep at night, "knowing the gov't is out to get them". hahah
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:15 PM
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Honestly I'd be one if I had the means, I'd love to add all these ratings, time and money is a tough one.
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:09 PM
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These guys fascinate me... the amount of money they put into the system is phenomenal. These are pilots who collect ratings. I find it hard to believe they are married. I haven't dated a girl yet that would put up with the amount of financial loss required to support this hobby. But it is interesting none the less. Look these guys up.


- John Lear - every rating possible by the FAA
- Leiland Mozart Duke - MD-11 pilot probably 50+ types and most all other ratings
- Robert Blaine Briggs - 100 Types and almost all other ratings

Does anyone know of any other note-worthy ratings collectors besides these guys that have an absurd amount of FAA tickets? These people blow my mind.
You aren't including type ratings in that are you?

However I do find it VERY annoying when I ask someone what ratings they have and they say "All of them" then I ask about helicopter and they say "well no...".
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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for the John Lear one - no, he doesn't have nearly as many types as these other guys, just a bunch of certifications.
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I'm not able to pull anything up on FAA.gov, but I'm pretty certain Barry Schiff has a ton of ratings...I seem to remember an article in AOPAPilot years ago about trying to reach 300 "types" in his logbook, even though he considered the Warrior, Archer, and Cherokee different types, same with 150's/152's, etc. I wish I could pull it up though, I'd be interested to see what's on his certificate.
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Originally Posted by Timmay
I'm not able to pull anything up on FAA.gov, but I'm pretty certain Barry Schiff has a ton of ratings...I seem to remember an article in AOPAPilot years ago about trying to reach 300 "types" in his logbook, even though he considered the Warrior, Archer, and Cherokee different types, same with 150's/152's, etc. I wish I could pull it up though, I'd be interested to see what's on his certificate.
He is specifically talking about different types of aircraft, not actual type-ratings.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Back in the day, it used to be somewhat acceptable for two DPE's to go for an airplane ride and then sign each other off for type ratings. Of course these were merely trophy ratings, which would hopefully never be used for real.
Had a guy at NWA who did this and when the feds got a hold of it they took every rating he had away, except what he needed to go to work(he was lucky)
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Leiland was at Fedex also. He too was a nice guy to fly with and pretty mild mannered. He didn't brag, just liked doing the rating thing as a hobby. He retired about a year ago. He has a couple of small airplanes that he still flies.
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