7/13 Trump assassination attempt
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Not sure if the mods will shut this down before it even gets started, but figured having its own thread could be interesting.
If anyone wants the technical side of the ballistics involved in the attempt, this guy provides pretty good commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ6IrrCrcU
If anyone wants the technical side of the ballistics involved in the attempt, this guy provides pretty good commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ6IrrCrcU
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Not sure if the mods will shut this down before it even gets started, but figured having its own thread could be interesting.
If anyone wants the technical side of the ballistics involved in the attempt, this guy provides pretty good commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ6IrrCrcU
If anyone wants the technical side of the ballistics involved in the attempt, this guy provides pretty good commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ6IrrCrcU
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Yeah nothing really new, just nobodies managed to come this close in about 40 years.
Although honestly while some say Trump got lucky I'd say the shooter got lucky to even nick him at all. At that range any proficient shooter could reliably hit a standard target, with a decent weapon... but this was obviously amateur hour and the weapon was probably junk. Of course the shooter was under pressure too.
Also SS was either seriously under-resourced or seriously screwed up to allow a vantage point like that to go uncovered for long enough. They have a very challenging job in general and I respect that, but within that radius it should be low-hanging fruit to cover a few roof-tops. Someone is getting fired soon.
Although honestly while some say Trump got lucky I'd say the shooter got lucky to even nick him at all. At that range any proficient shooter could reliably hit a standard target, with a decent weapon... but this was obviously amateur hour and the weapon was probably junk. Of course the shooter was under pressure too.
Also SS was either seriously under-resourced or seriously screwed up to allow a vantage point like that to go uncovered for long enough. They have a very challenging job in general and I respect that, but within that radius it should be low-hanging fruit to cover a few roof-tops. Someone is getting fired soon.
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Yup, the Secret Service and local LEOs completely botched this on many levels... the question is whether it was on purpose or just due to sheer incompetence?
Trump is incredibly lucky, and so was the entire country. We were about 1/4" from the start of a civil war.
It's no coincidence that this didn't happen until it became clear Trump is going to be the next President. And this will probably not be the last serious attempt between now and January. They want to make sure he never gets back into power.
Also I'm not a big Trump fan, but sheesh... standing up afterwards and shaking his fist after being shot.... gotta admire the resolve of that guy!
Trump is incredibly lucky, and so was the entire country. We were about 1/4" from the start of a civil war.
It's no coincidence that this didn't happen until it became clear Trump is going to be the next President. And this will probably not be the last serious attempt between now and January. They want to make sure he never gets back into power.
Also I'm not a big Trump fan, but sheesh... standing up afterwards and shaking his fist after being shot.... gotta admire the resolve of that guy!
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Ditto, I have to give him credit for that.
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I’m not a political soul. But I’ll wager this, hasn’t gotten much safer around here for office seekers. Where for regular folks, let’s face it, you can get plugged just about anytime, anywhere. Which makes me marvel at the crowd’s lack of response to the get down commands. They clearly crave participation. Gawking, leaning in, recording, flipping off the press. Unreal. A freak found a freak hole, then missed into unsighted victims. Whereas JFK, wearing a spinal corset, recoiled from a nonlethal strike to give a bolt action marksman his 2nd chance from about half the range on a moving target. These rallies are magnets for crazies. Prigozhin was a fool. No way a Putin, Kim or Xi will take chances like that. Would you?
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I’m not a political soul. But I’ll wager this, hasn’t gotten much safer around here for office seekers. Where for regular folks, let’s face it, you can get plugged just about anytime, anywhere. Which makes me marvel at the crowd’s lack of response to the get down commands. They clearly crave participation. Gawking, leaning in, recording, flipping off the press. Unreal. A freak found a freak hole, then missed into unsighted victims. Whereas JFK, wearing a spinal corset, recoiled from a nonlethal strike to give a bolt action marksman his 2nd chance from about half the range on a moving target. These rallies are magnets for crazies. Prigozhin was a fool. No way a Putin, Kim or Xi will take chances like that. Would you?
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Sure he did. This was amateur night, every sniper, sof operator, and SWAT dude in the country knows that. Said inbred would be an exceptionally unreliable patsy to pull off something like this, ergo nobody would bother with such a futile attempt. Especially not whichever omnipotent deep state, corporate interest, foriegn government, reptillian illuminati might be behind such a hypothetical conspiracy.
Most or all COCOMS have a USSS support plan, many of us have read them. You may be missing the fact that an ex-president / candidate would be lucky to get 10% of the resources allocated to POTUS, for a very, very good reason: POTUS is CiC and a key link in the strategic deterrence chain. That might change going forward, wouldn't be a good look for the executive's political opponent to get whacked due to lack of protection provided by said executive.
Yes USSS screwed up IMO, the geomtery of this is such that it should have been preventable and any skilled marksman can see that. But conspiracy makes no sense.
Besides, who would have a motive? Not the other party... their *best* shot in Nov (slim as it is) is that DJT motivates the blue base. If he were taken out, the RNC would simply nominate a couple people who would win in a landslide due to being young, professional, not mentally impaired, plus sympathy for the martyr. DJT as a martyr is the worst possible case for them, and as Sonic pointed out, that might even result in a regime change much sooner than Jan. So who put the inbred up to it? Niki? She just has to wait four years, is she impatient?
Gonna need much stronger tin foil to make this case. This isn't the grassy knoll, there aren't any other shooters, nobody other than PRC has a motive and they wouldn't remotely risk a nuclear war when they are currently outmatched 20-1 on warheads with questionable delivery systems.
Yes USSS screwed up IMO, the geomtery of this is such that it should have been preventable and any skilled marksman can see that. But conspiracy makes no sense.
Besides, who would have a motive? Not the other party... their *best* shot in Nov (slim as it is) is that DJT motivates the blue base. If he were taken out, the RNC would simply nominate a couple people who would win in a landslide due to being young, professional, not mentally impaired, plus sympathy for the martyr. DJT as a martyr is the worst possible case for them, and as Sonic pointed out, that might even result in a regime change much sooner than Jan. So who put the inbred up to it? Niki? She just has to wait four years, is she impatient?
Gonna need much stronger tin foil to make this case. This isn't the grassy knoll, there aren't any other shooters, nobody other than PRC has a motive and they wouldn't remotely risk a nuclear war when they are currently outmatched 20-1 on warheads with questionable delivery systems.
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