7/13 Trump assassination attempt
#31
Well USSS is one of the agencies where you'd actually expect the leader to be a long-time member who came up through the rank and file.
Like they won't appoint some big donor's socialite trophy wife to be head of the FBI, or a USAF shoe clerk to head JSOC.
Fresh blood and outside perspective is good for large business and bureaucratic organizations, but USSS is a special case IMO. Although if they decide it needs a real house-cleaning, who knows.
Like they won't appoint some big donor's socialite trophy wife to be head of the FBI, or a USAF shoe clerk to head JSOC.
Fresh blood and outside perspective is good for large business and bureaucratic organizations, but USSS is a special case IMO. Although if they decide it needs a real house-cleaning, who knows.
https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/97889-women-in-security-2022-kimberly-cheatle-
pepsico
I think the justification to pull her back and make her director had to do with gender equity, actually:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-new...ffice-sources/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...s__151022.html
https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2021/12/us-secret-service-celebrates-50-years-women-special-agents
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/statement-from-president-biden-on-the-appointment-of-kimberly-cheatle-to-be-the-next-director-of-the-united-states-secret-service/
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#32
Actually, she retired once and took up a second career as security guru for PepsiCo.
https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/97889-women-in-security-2022-kimberly-cheatle-
pepsico
I think the justification to pull her back and make her director had to do with gender equity, actually:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-new...ffice-sources/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...s__151022.html
https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2021/12/us-secret-service-celebrates-50-years-women-special-agents
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/statement-from-president-biden-on-the-appointment-of-kimberly-cheatle-to-be-the-next-director-of-the-united-states-secret-service/
https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/97889-women-in-security-2022-kimberly-cheatle-
pepsico
I think the justification to pull her back and make her director had to do with gender equity, actually:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-new...ffice-sources/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...s__151022.html
https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2021/12/us-secret-service-celebrates-50-years-women-special-agents
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/statement-from-president-biden-on-the-appointment-of-kimberly-cheatle-to-be-the-next-director-of-the-united-states-secret-service/
#34
Latest info now saying that there were two counter sniper teams… the team in all the videos online didn’t kill the guy… the other team on other side of the rally (longer shot distance) took the shot. It took 11 seconds after the first shot rang out for the counter sniper team to acquire the shooter… then another 15 seconds to kill him. The shooter got off 8 rounds apparently… no info on how many shots from the counter snipers were needed… I’m betting it took a few if it took 15 seconds to neutralize him.
‘the Director of the USSS should resign out of shame… as well as the lead agent who was in charge at the rally… how can they walk the halls with their peers knowing they let some 20 year old idiot get off 8 shots at the 45th President of the USA. And how can the current President have any confidence in his/families security… what a clown show.
‘the Director of the USSS should resign out of shame… as well as the lead agent who was in charge at the rally… how can they walk the halls with their peers knowing they let some 20 year old idiot get off 8 shots at the 45th President of the USA. And how can the current President have any confidence in his/families security… what a clown show.
#35
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Latest info now saying that there were two counter sniper teams… the team in all the videos online didn’t kill the guy… the other team on other side of the rally (longer shot distance) took the shot. It took 11 seconds after the first shot rang out for the counter sniper team to acquire the shooter… then another 15 seconds to kill him. The shooter got off 8 rounds apparently… no info on how many shots from the counter snipers were needed… I’m betting it took a few if it took 15 seconds to neutralize him.
‘the Director of the USSS should resign out of shame… as well as the lead agent who was in charge at the rally… how can they walk the halls with their peers knowing they let some 20 year old idiot get off 8 shots at the 45th President of the USA. And how can the current President have any confidence in his/families security… what a clown show.
‘the Director of the USSS should resign out of shame… as well as the lead agent who was in charge at the rally… how can they walk the halls with their peers knowing they let some 20 year old idiot get off 8 shots at the 45th President of the USA. And how can the current President have any confidence in his/families security… what a clown show.
It was reported to be 1 shot. From that distance it would be even more ridiculuous for a professional sniper to miss a target laying flat on a roof.
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#36
The only reason I can imagine for the delay was if they thought the guy might have been local PD. Apparently the building was the CP for the locals, so not utterly implausible that Barney Fife might have climbed up there for some reason. Especially if his clothes were similar to what the cops were wearing.
No excuse if that's what happened, USSS leadership shoud have clearly coordinated that, and everybody involved should have known: Either somebody will be posted on the roof, or it's a no-go area and thus weapons free.
#37
But the number of other breakdowns in security where intervention could have and shoukd have happened is just staggering. It cost one guy his life, another two serious injuries, and one a graze that may significantly alter the course of American history. On the good side, it did get JFK secret service coverage.
Apparently being a 'friend of Jill' actually wasn't adequate qualification to run the Secret Servicw.
#38
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Allegedly, there was no one up on the roof because the sloping roof was deemed a 'safety hazard' to put anyone up there.
But the number of other breakdowns in security where intervention could have and shoukd have happened is just staggering. It cost one guy his life, another two serious injuries, and one a graze that may significantly alter the course of American history. On the good side, it did get JFK secret service coverage.
Apparently being a 'friend of Jill' actually wasn't adequate qualification to run the Secret Servicw.
But the number of other breakdowns in security where intervention could have and shoukd have happened is just staggering. It cost one guy his life, another two serious injuries, and one a graze that may significantly alter the course of American history. On the good side, it did get JFK secret service coverage.
Apparently being a 'friend of Jill' actually wasn't adequate qualification to run the Secret Servicw.
#39
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Posts: 42
Doesnt matter, just like the PIC of an aircraft has to fall on the sword for anything that happens during a flight they command. She should not be permitted to resign. She should be fired especially with all the DEI crap she pushed for.
#40
I don't know USSS SOP, maybe her deputy for protection does that. But what else does the head of USSS have going on that's more important? Meth heads minting counterfeit money on inkjet printers in Kansas? Again, survival instinct.
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