Originally Posted by METO Guido

Menendez sewed a stash into winter coats. Are there innocent kooks carrying large sums? Probably. The remaining 97%, guilty as hell of something.

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

This is how police states and facism are enabled.

Originally Posted by MaxQ

That is a driving factor in bitcoin etc.
My superficial reading tells me bitcoin has created new criminal industries, such as corporate website hostage taking, etc.
One can also now move vast sums without having to carry the briefcase of cash.
One might assume it effects the real estate money laundering business as well.
(side bit of trivia, Putin recently blamed power outages in Russia on excessive demands made by bitcoin mining...

I know, a bit off topic of the discussion on rights, but untraceable money that one need not physically carry has opened new areas of tension berween personal rights/privacy, and the legitimate needs to protect innocent people and society at large from criminals.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke

The constitutional protection against search is irrelevant when one volunteers to be searched. Having given consnent, one cannot cry constitutional violation.

Consent to search is a term of entry into any area beyond security, at the airport. if one is searched after that point, one has already given consent by entering. All persons beyond that point are subject to search at any time. If you don't consent, don't go beyond that point.

One can be searched at the security screening checkpoint, and at any time thereafter, including on the aircraft; one's personal effects are subject to search. Ones baggage is subject to search. One is subject to search. What the US constitution has to say about that is irrelevant, given that every person who passes (or bypasses) security to enter the secure area, has consented by entering, because it's a condition of entry.

One can't even appeal to a big, cartoonish, orange upside-down thumb, if searched, having given one's consent to be searched, by voluntarily entering an area in which all persons are subject to search as a condition of entry. No need to cry constitutional violation of wave the mindless orange thumb, if one simply elects not to enter. No consent? Very simple. Stay out. Problem solved. Now you can sit outside the airport and enjoy your constitutional protection against unreasonable search or seizure, and post upside down orange thumbs.

Originally Posted by METO Guido

You don’t say. All the same, laws are meaningless if unenforceable. Wealth without legit source is what fascists/gangsters trade on. Got something to hide, don’t drag it through security.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Yes. Crypto is the purvue of hipster tech bros, drug dealers, pedos, and as you say has enabled new forms of criminality mostly of the scam/extortion variety.

Originally Posted by Excargodog

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Originally Posted by Excargodog

So you recommend reversing the presumption of innocence? If I accuse you of murder, you think you should have to prove yourself innocent rather than me having to prove you guilty? And I get to incarcerate you until you prove yourself innocent?

That's not just a slippery slope, that's a long free fall for uncertain justice.