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Old 09-05-2024, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So I’m an ‘executive’ going to confront feds in an airport secure area. The United States! My rights under the 4th being trampled right here in a jetway! I know my rights.

Is the hound a reasonable suspicion tool used during random searches on command? Maybe. So litigate. Don’t carry more than $4999 cash. Don’t miss your fight. Give that door plug next to the arm rest a good shake before buckling in.
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Old 09-06-2024, 08:54 PM
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Just becuase we enter an airport doesn't mean we give up our Constitutional rights. Get a warrant if you want to search my bag.
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Old 09-06-2024, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Just becuase we enter an airport doesn't mean we give up our Constitutional rights. Get a warrant if you want to search my bag.
When you pass security at the airport on a commercial flight, you agree and consent to be searched at that time, and any time thereafter. It's posted on big signs as a condition of entry.

Don't want to agree to that?

No problem.

Don't enter.

Once you've entered, understanding the terms and conditions of being in the area beyond security, don't whine when searched, and don't cry that your "constitutional rights" have been violated. You agreed to the search.

Proof: you're there. What are you doing there, if you don't consent? You gave your consent when you entered the secure area. Next time, read. It's important.
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Old 09-07-2024, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
When you pass security at the airport on a commercial flight, you agree and consent to be searched at that time, and any time thereafter. It's posted on big signs as a condition of entry.

Don't want to agree to that?

No problem.

Don't enter.

Once you've entered, understanding the terms and conditions of being in the area beyond security, don't whine when searched, and don't cry that your "constitutional rights" have been violated. You agreed to the search.

Proof: you're there. What are you doing there, if you don't consent? You gave your consent when you entered the secure area. Next time, read. It's important.
TSA search already performed, secondary searches are complete baloney. Search me again? Why? I've been searched already; TSA incompetent? Hmm, oh there is a sign posted over there that says you can? Oh, I didn't know a poster with a statement could overrule the Constitution.

I agree on your point of consenting to be searched to fly and that's what TSA does; anything after that is overreach.

This agent in CVG is a complete clown. "Do you have any money or drugs?" Ask TSA, they looked in my bag already. "You're traveling to NY, there's an influx of drugs." Oh yeah? I'm certain all those people on that plane are all traveling to NY too, so you going to search everyone? No? Just me? Probable cause? None? Yeah, goodbye.

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Old 09-07-2024, 05:43 AM
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Oh, I didn't know a poster with a statement could overrule the Constitution.

I agree on your point of consenting to be searched to fly and that's what TSA does; anything after that is overreach.

This agent in CVG is a complete clown. "Do you have any money or drugs?" Ask TSA, they looked in my bag already. "You're traveling to NY, there's an influx of drugs." Oh yeah? I'm certain all those people on that plane are all traveling to NY too, so you going to search everyone? No? Just me? Probable cause? None? Yeah, goodbye.
The constitution? Are you claiming unreasonable search? That goes out the window when you volunteer.

Who forced you to take that flight? Who forced you to enter the secure area? Were you forced, unreasonably, to enter the secure area?

No. You volunteered to enter an area in which a term of entry is that all persons and property are subject to search at any time. There is no constitutional violation when you willingly and voluntarily agree to the terms of entry...but entering. The proof of your consent is your presence. You wouldn't, and couldn't be there, if you didn't agree, and by entry, you HAVE consented by choosing to put yourself in that area, where entry is conditional.

You might as well argue that restricting firearms in the secure area is a violation of your second amendment rights. You'd be wrong, of course, but you can play constitutionalist all day long and be wrong, as you are now. Run through the terminal shouting that you have an explosive device, and then try to assert your right to free speech. Do you really think your constitional right has been suspended, because there are things you cannot say in that area? You'd be wrong again.

There's a lot you don't know, isn't there?

Originally Posted by Beech Dude
I agree on your point of consenting to be searched to fly and that's what TSA does; anything after that is overreach.
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Being subject to search in the secure area has been a condition of entry for many years, long before TSA, and that condition remains unchanged. It wasn't unconstitutional then, and isn't now.

Your assertion to the contrary changes nothing.[/size]

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This agent in CVG is a complete clown.
Which constitutional amendment protects you from clowns?
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Old 09-07-2024, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Just becuase we enter an airport doesn't mean we give up our Constitutional rights. Get a warrant if you want to search my bag.
“Warrant? Ohhhkay. Have a seat. Someone will be along to check on you. My shift ends at 1600.”

No, they don’t belong there. Any dent in trafficking amounts to nil. Going to catch some Brittney Griner’s. DEA is a perennial leak budget billions.
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