This is how I feel lately
07-09-2007, 06:09 PM
#11
Che Guevara
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If it's a cessna just leave 1200rpm and trim it for 65. It will land itself. If you trim all the way down it will glide in at 65kts then you don't even need the yoke. On a windless day you don't even need the rudders you can just use the doors lol.
07-09-2007, 06:16 PM
#12
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I remember my first flight after a long hiatus away from light GA aircraft. I was flying with a good friend of mine off of a grass strip in the middle of nowhere Idaho...
We tooled around for a bit, then went back and she asked if I wanted to do the landing. Not wanting to look too foolish, I said sure! Then I proceeded to fly a 3/4 mile wide pattern, complete with dog leg to final, flare at 50 feet, add power, stall at 7' and touchdown in a three point perfect example of how NOT to do a soft field landing.
I felt really bad, but being the patient friend and instructor, she of course said it wasn't that bad! (I did go back and repair my divot...)
Have fun! I wish that I got to fly light aircraft more often!
We tooled around for a bit, then went back and she asked if I wanted to do the landing. Not wanting to look too foolish, I said sure! Then I proceeded to fly a 3/4 mile wide pattern, complete with dog leg to final, flare at 50 feet, add power, stall at 7' and touchdown in a three point perfect example of how NOT to do a soft field landing.
I felt really bad, but being the patient friend and instructor, she of course said it wasn't that bad! (I did go back and repair my divot...)
Have fun! I wish that I got to fly light aircraft more often!
07-09-2007, 06:40 PM
#13
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This thread reminds me of an Eagle ERJ f/o that I did a 172 checkout for about a week ago in Arlington. He was doing exactly what you guys are talking about. His depth perception was still set for the 145 and it took a little work to fine tune it back to a light single engine mindset. I guess I have that to look forward to as well. 
07-09-2007, 06:41 PM
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07-10-2007, 06:12 AM
#15
Che Guevara
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I'm not the one who's scared to fly one. If you don't remember how to fly it then trim it all down and let it land itself. Won't be the smoothest in the world but it will land it safely. Guy once started having a heart attack. He trimmed it all the way down before passing out. Landed itself.
07-11-2007, 03:19 PM
#16
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Reminds me of a joke. There was an experienced captain who died of a heart attack in flight. The plane landed safely. Back on the ground, everbody was amazed. The captains were amazed that an FO had landed the plane without any help. The FO's were amazed that the FO had figured out when the captain was dead to know when to land the plane.
...ok, its a little joke.
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07-11-2007, 05:25 PM
#17
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It's so funny to read these, I did a check-out in a 172 a few months ago with a buddy who flies the ATR, and he did ALL off those things as well. It cracked me up, we were in the beginning of the flare at about 10' doing around 75 kts, and he goes "OH MY GOD I CAN'T DO THIS!!!" Said he was afraid he was going to fall out of the sky. I couldn't stop laughing. But we got him straightened out on the next one. 
I'm looking forward to the day when landing a 172 seems awkward again.
I'm looking forward to the day when landing a 172 seems awkward again.
07-11-2007, 06:53 PM
#19
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Try going from a A300 widebody to a Cessna 140 tail dragger and no GA flying for 3 yrs or tail wheel time. Talk about embarrassing, on the first take off the only thing that kept me from going off the rwy was we reached flying speed. The instructor who was about 60 and flew in a Big Cessna 195 tail dragger to give the lesson was just laughing in the right seat. 1 year later and love flying the 140 on days off and still have to fight the urge to start the flare at 50 somedays.
07-11-2007, 08:10 PM
#20
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A blk 40 F-16 carrying a NAV pod, TGP pod, two wing tanks, two GBU's and two missiles, + divert fuel, comes over the threshhold around 180KCAS. Add in night and wet runway and it's a peach to stop.
I went flying with my son in an Archer and couldn't believe we were still in the air crossing the threshold. It was also the first time that I'd flown an airplane without anti-skid in 18 years, so as soon as I got it on the ground, I jammed on the brakes hard enough to bark the tires---oooops. How could an airplane going so slow skid on the runway?
I went flying with my son in an Archer and couldn't believe we were still in the air crossing the threshold. It was also the first time that I'd flown an airplane without anti-skid in 18 years, so as soon as I got it on the ground, I jammed on the brakes hard enough to bark the tires---oooops. How could an airplane going so slow skid on the runway?
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