Ukraine conflict
07-13-2023, 10:09 PM
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The man is a comedian. And a pretty good one. He’d probably appreciate the joke.
https://youtu.be/AhLWKebi-Uo
https://youtu.be/AhLWKebi-Uo
in the grand scheme of life, are you going to sit there and tell me this man isnt doing everything he can for his country?
07-13-2023, 10:57 PM
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No. I told you he is a professional comedian, and almost certainly has a better sense of humor than you. That’s praise, not criticism, although in this case the old saying about ‘damning with faint praise’ comes to mind….
07-14-2023, 08:33 AM
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i thought we were having dialogue but you made a turn at angry boomer town…….again.
07-14-2023, 08:43 AM
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If anyone is actually keeping up with the day to day on ukraine, i think they are going to make it
To tokmat by mid august.
its really really fascinating watching the ukranians take every piece slowly and methodically. Hill by hill. Flank by flank. If you watch replays zero line movement, it really shows how well they seem to be fighting.
another interesting thing i read from multiple different units, is that they love our bradleys. Apparently they are taking heavy hits but American steel is keeping the crews alive. Bmps, btrs, etc just tear apart under heavy weapons, but ours crumple, fold, but dont break apart. Never knew that about bradleys
To tokmat by mid august.
its really really fascinating watching the ukranians take every piece slowly and methodically. Hill by hill. Flank by flank. If you watch replays zero line movement, it really shows how well they seem to be fighting.
another interesting thing i read from multiple different units, is that they love our bradleys. Apparently they are taking heavy hits but American steel is keeping the crews alive. Bmps, btrs, etc just tear apart under heavy weapons, but ours crumple, fold, but dont break apart. Never knew that about bradleys
07-14-2023, 09:45 AM
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I wasn’t arguing at all. Just stating fact. He’s a pretty decent comedian and Netflix is going to be running his old shows. And that it’s apparent he has a better sense of humor than you. Nothing either “angry” or “angry boomer town” about it. Watch a few episodes. You may develop a sense of humor. He’s actually pretty good.
07-14-2023, 01:26 PM
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If anyone is actually keeping up with the day to day on ukraine, i think they are going to make it
To tokmat by mid august.
its really really fascinating watching the ukranians take every piece slowly and methodically. Hill by hill. Flank by flank. If you watch replays zero line movement, it really shows how well they seem to be fighting.
another interesting thing i read from multiple different units, is that they love our bradleys. Apparently they are taking heavy hits but American steel is keeping the crews alive. Bmps, btrs, etc just tear apart under heavy weapons, but ours crumple, fold, but dont break apart. Never knew that about bradleys
To tokmat by mid august.
its really really fascinating watching the ukranians take every piece slowly and methodically. Hill by hill. Flank by flank. If you watch replays zero line movement, it really shows how well they seem to be fighting.
another interesting thing i read from multiple different units, is that they love our bradleys. Apparently they are taking heavy hits but American steel is keeping the crews alive. Bmps, btrs, etc just tear apart under heavy weapons, but ours crumple, fold, but dont break apart. Never knew that about bradleys
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...t/70406715007/
07-14-2023, 05:11 PM
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Everyone has an opinion. Other knowledgeable people don’t necessarily share your optimism:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...t/70406715007/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...t/70406715007/
Let me ask you a question and i hope after all your “personality “ youve laid out here, you will have integrity and answer truthfully.
have you been tracking the day to day fighting? Do you know what the Ukrainian strategy is, and have you been focused on the daily movement of the lines, the attack vectors they are using, and their short term goals such as capturing certain high ground etc?
Please be honest
i have been tracking it every day. Oryx and isw. Mod daily briefings from both sides. The ukraniams have significant momentum rn, anyone with half and ear to the ground and no political bias up their a$$ would know this
07-14-2023, 06:02 PM
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Ukrainian forces have been geolocated on the east bank of the Dani pro river south of Kherson through Russian sources. Limited maneuvers are in play atm, but sources indicate they are operating towards Kherson. Could be the openings of a south flank.
Everything must obviously be taken with a grain of salt as we don’t live there nor are privy to internal communications. I put this disclaimer here because apparently it needs to be said, despite me thinking that it’s common sense that ALL information departing the battle space must be met with skepticism.
If a southern flank does open, this will be the largest meeting of mechanized forces in decades.
Everything must obviously be taken with a grain of salt as we don’t live there nor are privy to internal communications. I put this disclaimer here because apparently it needs to be said, despite me thinking that it’s common sense that ALL information departing the battle space must be met with skepticism.
If a southern flank does open, this will be the largest meeting of mechanized forces in decades.
Looks like the party is starting. If its true, I’m pretty sure these guys are now wise in the ways of war and would not do so without the proper equipment, training, and logistics. Luckily they have staunch allies in the EU and North America that made this possible. Should be an interesting next couple of weeks. Slava ukraine.
paywall dude
Let me ask you a question and i hope after all your “personality “ youve laid out here, you will have integrity and answer truthfully.
have you been tracking the day to day fighting? Do you know what the Ukrainian strategy is, and have you been focused on the daily movement of the lines, the attack vectors they are using, and their short term goals such as capturing certain high ground etc?
Please be honest
i have been tracking it every day. Oryx and isw. Mod daily briefings from both sides. The ukraniams have significant momentum rn, anyone with half and ear to the ground and no political bias up their a$$ would know this
Let me ask you a question and i hope after all your “personality “ youve laid out here, you will have integrity and answer truthfully.
have you been tracking the day to day fighting? Do you know what the Ukrainian strategy is, and have you been focused on the daily movement of the lines, the attack vectors they are using, and their short term goals such as capturing certain high ground etc?
Please be honest
i have been tracking it every day. Oryx and isw. Mod daily briefings from both sides. The ukraniams have significant momentum rn, anyone with half and ear to the ground and no political bias up their a$$ would know this
You can rah-rah Ukraine all you want, but it doesn’t change reality. We’ll see how it plays out, but even the Ukrainians are admitting this is a lot harder than they expected. And they really haven’t yet gotten to the hard part. I hope Ukraine does well - I really do - but I wouldn’t bet money on them even being able to get most of the area they’ve lost in this war back let alone retake Crimea. You are certainly entitled to a different opinion but the force mismatch is still considerable and our European allies (excepting those in Eastern Europe) are feckless as ever.
07-14-2023, 06:11 PM
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“Paywall dude”
History lesson:You can't tell the truth about the Holocaust in Poland. Could that happen in the US?
Worse, Ukraine’s population is down to as low as 28 million, down from a government estimate of 41 million before the war started. Most won’t return.
With its vastly higher population, military size and extraction economy, the Russians have the staying power for the slog. They have attacked critical Ukraine infrastructure at every opportunity since the war began in a sustained effort to erode Ukraine’s power grid, supply depots, roads, highways, bridges and labor force.
Including Crimea, nearly half of Ukraine’s territory could end up under Russian control. Russian forces will continue fortifying its buffer zone for many years to come. They're not going anywhere.
Ukrainian attrition greatly favors Russia
While Ukraine and the West generally are silent about Ukrainian casualties, a reasonable estimate is that they have lost as many as 300,000 troops in 17 months of fighting. This horrific figure is unsustainable, matching U.S. troops killed in battle in all of World War II.History lesson:You can't tell the truth about the Holocaust in Poland. Could that happen in the US?
Worse, Ukraine’s population is down to as low as 28 million, down from a government estimate of 41 million before the war started. Most won’t return.
With its vastly higher population, military size and extraction economy, the Russians have the staying power for the slog. They have attacked critical Ukraine infrastructure at every opportunity since the war began in a sustained effort to erode Ukraine’s power grid, supply depots, roads, highways, bridges and labor force.
The Russian buffer zone is the endgame
Russia intends to repatriate all Russian-speaking majority populations in eastern Ukraine, ensure permanent land access to Crimea and prevent NATO from ever sitting on its border. To achieve these goals, Russia needs a buffer zone. The Maginot Line and the security zone between it and the Dnieper River have created that de facto buffer zone, dividing Ukraine in half.Including Crimea, nearly half of Ukraine’s territory could end up under Russian control. Russian forces will continue fortifying its buffer zone for many years to come. They're not going anywhere.
07-14-2023, 06:35 PM
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Do better with your sources. That's an opinion piece from a Pro-Russian activist. Myers has had multiple business ventures in Russia, and he was one of the first to create joint businesses in post-Soviet era Russia.
"With a unique understanding of Russia's history, culture, leadership, and people, he documented his story in his extraordinary bestselling memoir Cross Winds".
"With a unique understanding of Russia's history, culture, leadership, and people, he documented his story in his extraordinary bestselling memoir Cross Winds".
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