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Old 05-29-2023, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
Where My Doomers At?

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In fact that whole thread is filled with hilarious predictions that never came to fruition. Wingedbeast even said he thought the Ukrainians would fold immediately.

i guess the governments of the western world did not hold the same view as fox news.
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I predict the Euros start to fold by March 2023.


https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/10/2...in-europe/amp/

The Ukraine never was that important to them, the Dem progressives are ready to give them up and the Republicans (less Cheney and a few others) don’t care that much either.
Except I’m not WingedBeast, and you lied when you claimed I said the Euros would ABANDON the Ukrainians. I said the Euros would start to fold on them, and that is happening. Look at Turkey and Hungary. Look at the countries that put tariffs on Ukrainian agricultural products to protect their own farmers from the competition. Look at Germany which has STILL not obligated the €100 million they promised for defense and is continuing to put off getting up to 2% of their GDP for defense and - having to make concessions to their Greens may never do so. Look at France which has dragged its feet on munitions procurement in an effort to see it benefits Europe and won’t be farmed out to anyone else. Even some of the EU countries that are the Ukraine’s most vocal supporters are working their own scams. Estonia sent a lot of obsolete Cold War era junk to the Ukraine, billing the EU war fund for the cost of modern stuff they will purchase to replace it.


https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-e...-facility/amp/

Everybody has an angle, but clearly, Ukraine isn’t their priority.

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Old 05-29-2023, 08:58 AM
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Thats a valid point. However there has to be a line where at some point he’ll run his mouth too much and get defenestrated.

P. also seems to be the only pony Vlad has left in the race...

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Old 05-29-2023, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Except I’m not WingedBeast, and you lied when you claimed I said the Euros would ABANDON the Ukrainians. I said the Euros would start to fold on them, and that is happening. Look at Turkey and Hungary. Look at the countries that put tariffs on Ukrainian agricultural products to protect their own farmers from the competition. Look at Germany which has STILL not obligated the €100 million they promised for defense and is continuing to put off getting up to 2% of their GDP for defense and - having to make concessions to their Greens may never do so. Look at France which has dragged its feet on munitions procurement in an effort to see it benefits Europe and won’t be farmed out to anyone else. Even some of the EU countries that are the Ukraine’s most vocal supporters are working their own scams. Estonia sent a lot of obsolete Cold War era junk to the Ukraine, billing the EU war fund for the cost of modern stuff they will purchase to replace it.


https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-e...-facility/amp/

Everybody has an angle, but clearly, Ukraine isn’t their priority.
Fold vs abandoned, are you for real? You arent even an adult enough to just say you were wrong. I feel sorry for you man. I really do.


Weak and pathetic to not own it.

ive admitted im wrong on here multiple times, I’ve apologized in public to you for being rude multiple times. You haven’t/cant do any of that. You sir, are an absolute child. Good day
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Old 05-29-2023, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
Fold vs abandoned, are you for real? You arent even an adult enough to just say you were wrong. I feel sorry for you man. I really do.


Weak and pathetic to not own it.

ive admitted im wrong on here multiple times, I’ve apologized in public to you for being rude multiple times. You haven’t/cant do any of that. You sir, are an absolute child. Good day
What part of START to fold did you not understand?

And I realize you have apologized for rudeness and errors multiple times, but an apology without changing subsequent behavior is pretty meaningless, especially when it HAS been multiple times
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Old 05-30-2023, 08:40 AM
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Next time you are sitting in a hotel room with nothing to do…


https://www.realcleardefense.com/art...ve_885319.html

And while you are at it, Europe remains a breeding ground for old ethnic hatreds:



https://www.politico.eu/article/nato...amid-violence/
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Old 05-31-2023, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Next time you are sitting in a hotel room with nothing to do…/
Better still enroute FLL/LAX. Look left.
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Better still enroute FLL/LAX. Look left.
you drinking again?
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Old 05-31-2023, 07:11 PM
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you drinking again?
People with a problem need a drink. I already have one https://youtu.be/g9lkeoxJRxA
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Nicely organized but nothing particularly new there imo. A shrinking mismatch between conventional adversaries is now on the aggressor’s adjusted doorstep. Breach that line too quickly East, it’ll be halted with atomic force. Whether or not Putin remains at the helm won’t matter much. Regime change, however unlikely, is beginning to appear the only feasible way out.
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