Ukraine conflict
03-19-2023, 10:14 PM
#431
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Anything worth doing as the saying goes. Hell I might even join Rotary on Signal Hill.
https://youtu.be/xGZNh2erp9A
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03-20-2023, 02:06 PM
#432
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Final "request"... please do not attack or impugn other users on APC. Whatever your point is you can make it without digging at the other guy.
It's OK to disagree, we won't know the right answer for years or decades to come and we might never know definitively.
It's OK to disagree, we won't know the right answer for years or decades to come and we might never know definitively.
03-20-2023, 02:23 PM
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It's OK to disagree, we won't know the right answer for years or decades to come and we might never know definitively.[/QUOTE]
So true.
"We" seldom know for certain the right answer. What is 'right' changes over the generations.
However, I do know this: No action or event ever has an ending. It contributes to shaping the ensuing future forever.
Because of that, I believe this: As long as Humans have agency (or volition if you prefer that term), "wars never end, they just go to sleep".
So true.
"We" seldom know for certain the right answer. What is 'right' changes over the generations.
However, I do know this: No action or event ever has an ending. It contributes to shaping the ensuing future forever.
Because of that, I believe this: As long as Humans have agency (or volition if you prefer that term), "wars never end, they just go to sleep".
03-20-2023, 02:50 PM
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"We" seldom know for certain the right answer. What is 'right' changes over the generations.
However, I do know this: No action or event ever has an ending. It contributes to shaping the ensuing future forever.
Because of that, I believe this: As long as Humans have agency (or volition if you prefer that term), "wars never end, they just go to sleep".[/QUOTE]
THAT is exactly my point. This is a war that has been going on since we climbed out of the trees.
Be selfish and live in your propaganda driven media sphere, or be a romantic and look at the big picture.
Ask yourself this, why is the Ukraine support split along party lines? Should it be? Would republicans 30 years ago let Putin invade? What shifted?
Follow that trail and you my have little patience for politics.
A lot of “true believers” out there
03-21-2023, 08:41 AM
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And once again, a lot of feckless NATO “allies”. An ally that doesn’t do their fair share begins to look a lot like a parasite.
https://www.politico.eu/article/is-there-a-war-on-big-eu-powers-miss-nato-spending-targets-again-allies/
https://www.politico.eu/article/is-there-a-war-on-big-eu-powers-miss-nato-spending-targets-again-allies/
Germany: 1.49 percent. Italy: 1.51 percent. France: 1.89 percent
Of 30 members, only Greece, Poland, the Baltic states, the United Kingdom and the United States spent more than 2 percent of their economic output on defense last year, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg’s annual report shows.
Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas, whose country reached 2.12 percent last year according to the report, said on Tuesday that she was “quite shocked” when looking at who is and is not fulfilling the target.
“Come on, it’s not possible — I think everybody should understand, knowing and seeing what is happening in Ukraine, that we don’t have that time,” she told POLITICO.
Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas, whose country reached 2.12 percent last year according to the report, said on Tuesday that she was “quite shocked” when looking at who is and is not fulfilling the target.
“Come on, it’s not possible — I think everybody should understand, knowing and seeing what is happening in Ukraine, that we don’t have that time,” she told POLITICO.
03-21-2023, 10:34 AM
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As of March 19th western intelligence is assessing the RU advance in Donetsk as culminating. The Russians used 300k recruits and made no real gains. Wagner is being thrown to the wolves.
The Ukrainians are coming this summer and there may not be much the RU can do about it. It’s nice that see that despite Russian propaganda advancing in our own information space, our direct involvement has allowed the Ukrainians to stall the Russian advance.
I’m very happy we have strong leadership that understands geopolitical realities anchored in historical context
Slava Ukraine
The Ukrainians are coming this summer and there may not be much the RU can do about it. It’s nice that see that despite Russian propaganda advancing in our own information space, our direct involvement has allowed the Ukrainians to stall the Russian advance.
I’m very happy we have strong leadership that understands geopolitical realities anchored in historical context
Slava Ukraine
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03-21-2023, 06:21 PM
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As of March 19th western intelligence is assessing the RU advance in Donetsk as culminating. The Russians used 300k recruits and made no real gains. Wagner is being thrown to the wolves.
The Ukrainians are coming this summer and there may not be much the RU can do about it. It’s nice that see that despite Russian propaganda advancing in our own information space, our direct involvement has allowed the Ukrainians to stall the Russian advance.
I’m very happy we have strong leadership that understands geopolitical realities anchored in historical context
Slava Ukraine
The Ukrainians are coming this summer and there may not be much the RU can do about it. It’s nice that see that despite Russian propaganda advancing in our own information space, our direct involvement has allowed the Ukrainians to stall the Russian advance.
I’m very happy we have strong leadership that understands geopolitical realities anchored in historical context
Slava Ukraine
More books on my list than my lifetime or pocketbook allow... but his book on those who follow sounds like a good read.
03-21-2023, 08:25 PM
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My mom’s basement. Chit, I'm still only in mom’s basement. Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back on the forum. When I was home after my first tour, it was worse. I'd wake up and there'd be nothing. I hardly said a word to my mom, ok wife. Until I said yes to a nice Chianti and jerk chicken. Here a week now, waiting for a mission, getting softer. Every minute I stay entertained by grandkids vision of an American dream I get weaker, and every minute pro war true believers squat on the forum, they get stronger. Each time I looked around the walls moved in a little tighter.
03-22-2023, 09:55 AM
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Logistics, logistics, logistics…
an excerpt:
Despite Congress’ push for the Navy to start buying three Arleigh Burke-class Flight III destroyers per year, the Fiscal Year 2024 budget request unveiled last week showed the service buying two destroyers. That’s because U.S. shipyards are not yet able to build two destroyers per year, let alone three, Mike McCord said last week.
“I’m not hating on DDGs – my only point was that last year Congress added a third and the reason we didn’t budget for three is, again, we don’t see the yards being able to produce three a year. We don’t see them being able to produce two a year. And that’s just data. It’s not what we wish to be true. But everybody’s struggling with skilled labor. Everybody’s struggling with supply chain. So it’s not getting better very fast from the data that I’ve seen – whether with submarines or DDGs. So two a year seems to be a reasonable place,” McCord told USNI News at the McAleese Conference.
“I’m not hating on DDGs – my only point was that last year Congress added a third and the reason we didn’t budget for three is, again, we don’t see the yards being able to produce three a year. We don’t see them being able to produce two a year. And that’s just data. It’s not what we wish to be true. But everybody’s struggling with skilled labor. Everybody’s struggling with supply chain. So it’s not getting better very fast from the data that I’ve seen – whether with submarines or DDGs. So two a year seems to be a reasonable place,” McCord told USNI News at the McAleese Conference.
Despite the authorities, the Navy, for now, is planning to buy two destroyers per year. The Future Years Defense Program, or the service’s five-year budget outlook, shows the Navy buying two ships per year from FY 2024 through FY 2028.
“We would love to live in a world where the yards could make three a year, or three submarines a year, but we don’t live in that world,” McCord said last week at the budget rollout.
“We would love to live in a world where the yards could make three a year, or three submarines a year, but we don’t live in that world,” McCord said last week at the budget rollout.
Our defense industrial base is NOT in great shape.
03-22-2023, 10:57 AM
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https://www.ibtimes.com/boeing-take-...-chief-3679460
Boeing Co. will take additional charges to the KC-46 tanker program due to a supplier quality issue with the center fuel tank, the company's finance chief said Wednesday.
Boeing Chief Financial Officer Brian West did not disclose the precise value of the additional charges, which will be announced as part of the company's first quarter earnings, but margins at Boeing's defense business would be negative as a result.
Boeing Chief Financial Officer Brian West did not disclose the precise value of the additional charges, which will be announced as part of the company's first quarter earnings, but margins at Boeing's defense business would be negative as a result.
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