Ukraine conflict
07-04-2024, 06:40 PM
#3421
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Those are billions. One thousand million tidy bundles of joy for multi national arms merchants. Due and payable in current dollars. Dollars already spent before they’re printed.
07-04-2024, 06:56 PM
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Justify that statement. The Ukraine was allied with Russia from 1922 to 1991. That's 69 years - and nothing happened in Western Europe. How would "the security of Europe' be undermined even if Russia took over the entire Ukraine, far less just the Crimea and three or four oblasts. I'm not saying Ukraine losing completely woukd be a good thing, but it seems sort of hysterical to claim that even returning to the Cold War status quo ante would do any more than return us to where we were from 1944 through 1991.
07-04-2024, 07:11 PM
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Justify that statement. The Ukraine was allied with Russia from 1922 to 1991. That's 69 years - and nothing happened in Western Europe. How would "the security of Europe' be undermined even if Russia took over the entire Ukraine, far less just the Crimea and three or four oblasts. I'm not saying Ukraine losing completely woukd be a good thing, but it seems sort of hysterical to claim that even returning to the Cold War status quo ante would do any more than return us to where we were from 1944 through 1991.
Either case, we're better off supporting nations whose sovereignty is under attack.
07-04-2024, 07:27 PM
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Either case, we're better off supporting nations whose sovereignty is under attack.
07-04-2024, 08:00 PM
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07-04-2024, 08:46 PM
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No more so than your assumption that they won't. But even if they didn't, the point generalizes. If they got the whole damn Warsaw Pact back we (the US) would be in the identical situation we were in for the entire Cold War. Prove YOUR assumption that we wouldn't be.
Prove that statement.
Prove that statement.
07-04-2024, 09:14 PM
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So you're good with going back to 1988's economy? We've made a lot of progress since then and despite what Tucker tells you on the idiot box, your life is far better today than it was then. But sure, let's just erase 35 years of progress and go back to the good ole' days.
07-04-2024, 09:20 PM
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France and England - later Great Britain - were at war, on and off, from 1689 to 1815. The contest began in the late 17th century, as England and other European states tried to contain the power and ambition of Louis XIV, and ended with the defeat of Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo.
07-04-2024, 10:04 PM
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Hogwash. The French and Indian wars are prove that France never gave a rat's @$$ about the US. They simply wanted to deprive Britain of resources.
France and England - later Great Britain - were at war, on and off, from 1689 to 1815. The contest began in the late 17th century, as England and other European states tried to contain the power and ambition of Louis XIV, and ended with the defeat of Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo.
France and England - later Great Britain - were at war, on and off, from 1689 to 1815. The contest began in the late 17th century, as England and other European states tried to contain the power and ambition of Louis XIV, and ended with the defeat of Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo.
07-05-2024, 03:20 AM
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Ask a Navajo,Cherokee or Sioux what tyranny is and get back to us. For an Eskimo, you got a lot to learn.
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