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Old 07-02-2024, 05:49 PM
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The active Russia-Ukraine front line has recently expanded as intense fighting continues in the areas of Pokrovsk and Toretsk, Ukraine's Chief Commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said on July 2.

He added that the intensity of fighting in other segments of the front line has recently decreased.

The Toretsk sector in Donetsk Oblast has become another hotspot in recent weeks, the general said. Fierce fighting of different intensity is also ongoing in the Kurakhove, Vremivka, Kramatorsk and Kharkiv sectors, according to Syrskyi.

Moscow's troops have increased their attacks near the town of Toretsk in June after a "long lull" in fighting in the area. Russia carried out 17 attacks in this direction, Ukraine's General staff said in its latest update on July 2.

The situation in the Pokrovsk sector is difficult, according to Syrskyi. Russia wants to break through Ukraine's defenses and has rotated strike units, removing the units "whose assault forces have completely lost their combat capability," Syrskyi said.

Left unsaid - "Every time we bleed them out somewhere they try somewhere else. Eventually we kill enough of them that they lose their combat effectiveness."

"Despite the reinforcement of our units with reserves, this area requires constant attention and additional ammunition and firepower," he added.

Left unsaid - "This is war. We have to take probing attacks seriously. Yes, ammunition supply matters."

The key problem for Ukrainian commanders are "manning units with motivated, well-trained military," Syrskyi said, as well as providing soldiers with modern electronic warfare and air defense equipment capable of effectively countering Russian drones.

Left unsaid - "If anyone thinks Russia or Putin gives two hoots about any of their soldiers they're delusional. We're killing as many as we can, as quickly as we can. They follow up a dumb attack with additional dumb tactics. It helps us that they're so incompetent. Their leadership is terrible and that trickles down to their terrible moral and lack of motivation."
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Old 07-02-2024, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The active Russia-Ukraine front line has recently expanded as intense fighting continues in the areas of Pokrovsk and Toretsk, Ukraine's Chief Commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said on July 2.

He added that the intensity of fighting in other segments of the front line has recently decreased.

The Toretsk sector in Donetsk Oblast has become another hotspot in recent weeks, the general said. Fierce fighting of different intensity is also ongoing in the Kurakhove, Vremivka, Kramatorsk and Kharkiv sectors, according to Syrskyi.

Moscow's troops have increased their attacks near the town of Toretsk in June after a "long lull" in fighting in the area. Russia carried out 17 attacks in this direction, Ukraine's General staff said in its latest update on July 2.

The situation in the Pokrovsk sector is difficult, according to Syrskyi. Russia wants to break through Ukraine's defenses and has rotated strike units, removing the units "whose assault forces have completely lost their combat capability," Syrskyi said.

Left unsaid - "Every time we bleed them out somewhere they try somewhere else. Eventually we kill enough of them that they lose their combat effectiveness."

"Despite the reinforcement of our units with reserves, this area requires constant attention and additional ammunition and firepower," he added.

Left unsaid - "This is war. We have to take probing attacks seriously. Yes, ammunition supply matters."

The key problem for Ukrainian commanders are "manning units with motivated, well-trained military," Syrskyi said, as well as providing soldiers with modern electronic warfare and air defense equipment capable of effectively countering Russian drones.

Left unsaid - "If anyone thinks Russia or Putin gives two hoots about any of their soldiers they're delusional. We're killing as many as we can, as quickly as we can. They follow up a dumb attack with additional dumb tactics. It helps us that they're so incompetent. Their leadership is terrible and that trickles down to their terrible moral and lack of motivation."
Left unsaid - "War is hell, for both sides."
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Left unsaid - "War is hell, for both sides."
Sure enough.

And the guy who starts one out of sheer hubris shouldn’t be so surprised when the people he invaded want to wipe the floor with him. This isn’t sad for the Ukrainians because the US is ‘meddling again’ as you continually imply. It’s sad for them because the Russians started an unnecessary war. Period. I hope it gets much, much sadder for Putin.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The active Russia-Ukraine front line has recently expanded as intense fighting continues in the areas of Pokrovsk and Toretsk, Ukraine's Chief Commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said on July 2.

He added that the intensity of fighting in other segments of the front line has recently decreased.

The Toretsk sector in Donetsk Oblast has become another hotspot in recent weeks, the general said. Fierce fighting of different intensity is also ongoing in the Kurakhove, Vremivka, Kramatorsk and Kharkiv sectors, according to Syrskyi.

Moscow's troops have increased their attacks near the town of Toretsk in June after a "long lull" in fighting in the area. Russia carried out 17 attacks in this direction, Ukraine's General staff said in its latest update on July 2.

The situation in the Pokrovsk sector is difficult, according to Syrskyi. Russia wants to break through Ukraine's defenses and has rotated strike units, removing the units "whose assault forces have completely lost their combat capability," Syrskyi said.

Left unsaid - "Every time we bleed them out somewhere they try somewhere else. Eventually we kill enough of them that they lose their combat effectiveness."

"Despite the reinforcement of our units with reserves, this area requires constant attention and additional ammunition and firepower," he added.

Left unsaid - "This is war. We have to take probing attacks seriously. Yes, ammunition supply matters."

The key problem for Ukrainian commanders are "manning units with motivated, well-trained military," Syrskyi said, as well as providing soldiers with modern electronic warfare and air defense equipment capable of effectively countering Russian drones.

Left unsaid - "If anyone thinks Russia or Putin gives two hoots about any of their soldiers they're delusional. We're killing as many as we can, as quickly as we can. They follow up a dumb attack with additional dumb tactics. It helps us that they're so incompetent. Their leadership is terrible and that trickles down to their terrible moral and lack of motivation."
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Sure enough.

And the guy who starts one out of sheer hubris shouldn’t be so surprised when the people he invaded want to wipe the floor with him. This isn’t sad for the Ukrainians because the US is ‘meddling again’ as you continually imply. It’s sad for them because the Russians started an unnecessary war. Period. I hope it gets much, much sadder for Putin.
No. this is Europe. It isn't merely Putin's War. Putin will be dead in a decade in all likelihood. Like the end of WWI set the stage for WWII, the hatred caused by this war will set the stage for the next conflict. Even if the were to emerge 'victorious' the Ukrainians will have a shattered country,and the Russians who lost loved ones won't blame the dead Putin. They'll blame the Ukrainians - with whom they will still share a long common border.

And the Russians will still have more resources and more people. Like the Castilians and the Catalonians and the Basques and many other groups who live cheek by jowl with ancient enemies, the old animosities will be kept alive long after this war is dry ink in a history book.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/euro...ermany-poland/


  1. NEWS
  2. DEFENSE

Europeans skeptical Ukraine will win war, polling shows

Most EU countries surveyed also opposed increasing their defense spending for Ukraine
JULY 3, 2024 5:01 AM CET
BY ELENA GIORDANOWhile the majority of Ukrainians believe Kyiv will prevail in its war with invading Russian forces, Europeans are more skeptical, a new study by the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR) shows.

The survey, published on Wednesday — days out from the July 9-11 NATO summit in Washington — mapped attitudes to the conflict in Ukraine and 14 EU countries. The fieldwork was undertaken in May.

It found that Europeans tend to believe that Ukraine won't defeat Russia on the battlefield, with roughly a third to half of those surveyed believing the war will end in a negotiated settlement, and up to 31 percent (Greece) seeing a Russian victory as most likely. Of the EU countries surveyed, only in Estonia was a Ukraine victory the prevailing view (38 percent).

On the contrary, the majority of Ukrainians (58 percent) remain confident their troops can win, and that they can continue to count on the support of their international allies. Only 1 percent of Ukrainians believe Russia will win the war, while 30 percent see a negotiated settlement as the most likely outcome.

The study also found considerable differences of opinion among EU countries on how to support the defense of Ukraine and on Kyiv’s EU and NATO accession.

NATO leaders are “unlikely to find domestic support for troop deployments" among member country populations, the findings revealed (country results ranged from 4 percent to 22 percent in favor).

On defense spending, the data showed that most countries are against increasing their contributions — the exceptions being Poland (where 53 percent support increasing defense spending), Estonia (45 percent), Sweden (41 percent) and Germany (40 percent).

However, most Europeans still support being involved in the war in other ways — such as by providing technical assistance and by increasing the supply of weapons and ammunition.

Only in Bulgaria, Greece and Italy does the majority of the population — 63 percent, 54 percent and 53 percent, respectively — think increasing the supply of ammunition and weapons to Ukraine is a “bad idea."



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Only in Bulgaria, Greece and Italy does the majority of the population — 63 percent, 54 percent and 53 percent, respectively — think increasing the supply of ammunition and weapons to Ukraine is a “bad idea."
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...latest-news10/


Russia claims it has captured a district in the key hilltop city of Chasiv Yar in eastern Ukraine, where Moscow’s troops have been slowly, but steadily advancing for months.

Seizing the whole of the crumbling Donbas city, close to Bakhmut, would allow Russia to threaten crucial Ukrainian supply lines and mount further offensives throughout the region.

Moscow’s claim was repeated by Ukrainian’s ‘DeepState’ Telegram channel, which has links to Kyiv’s army.

It said that the Novy neighbourhood in the city’s east had been flattened by Russia’s relentless bombardments and that withdrawing was “a logical, albeit difficult decision.”

Meanwhile, a major Russian missile and drone attack on the central Ukrainian city of Dnipro killed at least five and wounded 47 more, including a child.

The barrage damaged kindergartens, schools and hospitals and caused fires throughout the city on Wednesday morning.

The aerial onslaught sparked a fresh appeal from Volodymyr Zelensky for the West to supply more air defence systems and long-range weapons.

Overnight, Ukraine launched a drone attack targeting Russia’s Black Sea portof Novorossiysk, where Moscow’s once-revered Black Sea Fleet is hiding after it was forced to abandon its Crimean base in Sevastopol.

Russian officials were forced to restrict access to the beach as they attempted to repel Kyiv’s sea drones.

Satellites detected large fires surrounding the port, which is one of Russia’s largest and a major oil export and transit hub.

As Russian officials claimed to have brought the situation in Novorossiysk under control, Vladimir Putin arrived in Kazakhstan for the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit where he prioritised talks with Chinese and Turkish leaders.

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WASHINGTON AND THE WORLD

The GOP’s Top Anti-Interventionists Have a Surprising Thing in Common

Veterans of the war on terror saw the limits of military power firsthand and are driving the erosion of support for Ukraine.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...nists-00164026


On April 23, just hours after the United States Senate approved $61 billion in new military aid to Ukraine, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance took to the floor of the Senate to offer a sweeping rebuke of his colleagues’ decision. Standing behind his desk, Vance — who has emerged as a leading critic of U.S. policy toward Ukraine — unspooled a laundry list of objections: that American military capability is spread too thin; that Ukraine is outmanned and outgunned regardless of an increased level of U.S. support; that the Biden administration lacks a clear plan for bringing the war to a close.

Partway through his remarks, Vance suddenly got personal and pivoted to a less frequently discussed source of his skepticism: his time serving as a Marine during the Iraq War
Vance’s comments about the war in Iraq made up only a small part of his floor speech, but they provided a rare window into an underappreciated dynamic driving the Republican Party’s schism over the war in Ukraine and the direction of U.S. foreign policy: The rise of the GOP’s anti-intervention faction has been led in large part by veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In public, many of these members of Congress have shied away from discussing the ways their service in those conflicts shaped their foreign policy views, opting instead to frame their objections in more conventionally partisan terms. But in interviews with POLITICO Magazine, several leading members of the GOP’s anti-interventionist wing and their allies in Washington acknowledged that their experience serving on the ground in America’s two most recent wars played a decisive role in their rejection of the GOP’s more hawkish foreign policy consensus. Having witnessed the failures and lethal consequences of the U.S. wars firsthand, they said, they have grown skeptical of the efficacy of U.S. military power, distrustful of civilian and military leaders and weary of getting the United States involved in overseas conflicts that could cost additional American dollars and, in a worst-case scenario, American lives
​​​​​​​ These members’ accounts of their disillusionment with the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia complicate a prevailing explanation for the resurgence of anti-interventionism on the right. In contrast to the common claim that this resurgence is merely an artifact of the Republican Party’s loyalty to Donald Trump, conservatives’ own accounts indicate the origins of this shift — though undoubtedly encouraged and accelerated by Trump — predate him. As a result, they suggest that, contrary to the predictions — and, in some cases, the hopes— of its critics, the GOP’s anti-interventionist faction is not likely to dissipate anytime soon, even if Trump is defeated in November.
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On April 23, just hours after the United States Senate approved $61 billion in new military aid to Ukraine, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance took to the floor of the Senate to offer a sweeping rebuke of his colleagues’ decision. Standing behind his desk, Vance — who has emerged as a leading critic of U.S. policy toward Ukraine — unspooled a laundry list of objections: that American military capability is spread too thin; that Ukraine is outmanned and outgunned regardless of an increased level of U.S. support; that the Biden administration lacks a clear plan for bringing the war to a close.
It’s a big number. Getting only bigger in the window every quarter. The cost to US taxpayers will never be recovered. These are facts.

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It’s a big number. Getting only bigger in the window every quarter. The cost to US taxpayers will never be recovered. These are facts.

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The cost of losing security in Europe is far greater.

You'd think people in the travel industry would recognize that. But hey, it doesn't take geniuses to push buttons.
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