Sliceback

No, no, no. You need to do some studying and read up on the subject. It shows the great superpowers aligning against the Imperialist nations attacking the peace loving countries across the world. It's not desperation, it's Komraderie of the highest order. :-/

Excargodog

Says the guy who claimed to be a viper pilot and then swore that Russian EW would be no big friggin deal.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian-ew-interferes-with-starlink-in-frontline-zones-expert-claims-50423836.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...apons-ukraine/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/25/world/europe/us-weapons-russia-jamming-ukraine.html

Of course, I'm sure Hub will claim the articles are all Russian disinformation - obviously since they are from the Ukrainian government, the Washington Post, and the New York Times, all well known conduits for Russian propaganda.

Excargodog

Breedlove I actually knew. He admitted privately we had no prospect for success in Afghanistan back in 2015 or 2016, but woukdn't upchannel that belief because it wasn't what the State Department and politicians wanted to hear.

I've worked for and with some great general officers in my time, but all in all, this article isn't too far from the mark on many of them - including some four stars regrettably.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/art...d_1034268.html


Currently we have 44 four star general/flag officers authorized in the US military to command a little over 2 million active duty personnel. In WWII we had 16 million active duty personnel and only seven four stars. Little wonder we have the tooth to tail ratio problems we have. Too many generals and their staffs.

Hubcapped

and here are the lies. This is why no one here should give this no integrity bot a second of real energy other than to poke for fun

my quote is #624 in this thread where i said “ We have been aware of gpsjamming for a long time. The weapon is capable regardless. Here is an article from twenty years ago.”

nothing in there about not being degraded, just that the weapon is capable regardless. In fact, if you read the article it discusses this very subject.

its sad to see a presumably grown man lie to attempt to prove a point on an anonymous forum.
…..One really can only just laugh at such desperate absurdity. I love it.

Sliceback

Here's the difference between you and forme NATO Commander Breedlove - you're not on Ukraine's side. He is. You're a fan of his option #1, he's an option of #3 which allows a democratic country to remain free. That's a strange strategic concept you express no interest in. You have expressed zero interest in the professional advice and opinion highlighted but you have expressed support for Russia's positions. Telling us to 'know history' or 'study the issue' is ridiculous when the real experts and thankfully the national leaders facing Putin, disagree with you and agree with those pushing back about your pro-Putin stance.

https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/...defeat-russia/



LAWRENCE — Retired U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove viewed the U.S. House’s movement toward votes on military, economic and humanitarian aid to Ukraine amid a grueling war with Russia as an opportunity for the United States to clearly define intentions in a region marked for domination by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Breedlove, a four-star general who served as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, said Ukraine was in an “incredibly tough place right now” with strained military resources after a decade of combat against a powerful invader. He said Putin grossly misjudged Ukrainian capabilities and Russia has absorbed staggering casualties in fighting that offered flashes of the trench-warfare and artillery-bombardment quagmire of World War I.

He said the desire to avoid a wider war in other non-NATO countries in Europe or a tactical nuclear conflict remained at the forefront of U.S. foreign policy. But, he said, necessary caution shouldn’t prevent a forthright statement of purpose from leaders of the country responsible for delivering half the foreign aid to Ukraine since Russia took another bite of Ukrainian territory in the February 2022 invasion.

“The most important thing we could ‘give’ Ukraine right now doesn’t cost a dime,” Breedlove said last week at the Dole Institute of Politics at the University of Kansas. “It really is an expression of our commitment to what their future is. We owe them to publicly acknowledge, a declarative policy, about what we intend to do for Ukraine in a war against a world superpower.”

He said Congress could choose to end financial support and leave Ukraine to fight on before complete subjugation by Russia. The general said the United States and other Western powers could maintain the status quo, which was to keep Ukraine “viable” through imposition of economic sanctions and delivery of enough military aid for a war of attrition likely to end with a settlement conceding substantial territory to Russia.

Breedlove’s preference was a third option: Deliver to Ukraine the military resources required to halt Putin’s advance and drive Russia out of the country. At some point, he said, resolve must be found to block Putin’s quest to restore a Warsaw Pact-type buffer between Russia and NATO.

“We are 10 years into an illegal, immoral and inhumane war,” Breedlove said. “It was built at purpose and started at purpose for Mr. Putin, who wants to change the structure of Eastern Europe. Ukraine is the first step. He will not stop at Ukraine. We are at a point where we’re going to have to make a decision about how we react to Mr. Putin.”

In terms of Ukraine, war with Russia began in 2014 when Russia occupied and annexed Crimea from Ukraine and backed pro-Russian separatists in Donbas. Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine was launched in February 2022.

“I believe, given the right equipment, Ukraine could expel Russia from their lands,” the general said. “Then, we would have to deal with a defeated Putin and a defeated Russia. There is no zero-risk way ahead. We need to be intellectually honest and say, ‘We don’t have a crystal ball.’ The answer, I think, is not to capitulate.”

On Monday, U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson said he planned to advance, perhaps this week, legislation outlining aid to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and other allies. It’s not clear whether a measure allocating funding to Ukraine could pass in the House given opposition by conservative Republicans. The U.S. Senate approved an assistance package endorsed by President Joe Biden, but it hasn’t been advanced by House GOP leadership.

The four-person Kansas delegation in the U.S. House initially supported military, economic and humanitarian aid for Ukraine in wake of the 2022 invasion.

Since then, Democratic U.S. Rep. Sharice Davids has voted in favor of two subsequent Ukraine spending bills. U.S. Reps. Tracey Mann and Ron Estes, both Republicans, voted against those aid packages. U.S. Rep. Jake LaTurner, a Republican, voted for the first supplemental bill in 2022 but not the most recent assistance package for Ukraine in 2023.

In addition, Mann supported three amendments to a 2023 appropriations bill that would have blocked or conditioned U.S. financial support for Ukraine. Estes backed one of those amendments, while Davids and LaTurner opposed all three. None of those amendments passed the U.S. House.

The organization Republicans for Ukraine, which is part of Defending Democracy Together, issued a report card based on six congressional votes regarding U.S. assistance to Ukraine. Estes and Mann received grades of F from the organization, while LaTurner rated a D grade. As a Democrat, Davids wasn’t included in the grade-card report.

METO Guido

IOW, keep them stalemated, wait it out. Might that work? Yes. Will it reclaim the border, less likely. Does Russia, N Korea, Iran, China shift toward rule of law culture, not a chance.

Excargodog

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-june-20-2024

Excargodog

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/06/21/russia-uses-first-time-a-massive-fab-3000-guided-bomb-in-kharkiv-oblast/

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34668

Hubcapped

this is why the bot deserves zero respect, and zero genuine responses from any rational human here. He gets caught in a lie trying to prove a point, and then gets absolutely thumped by slice…….and do we get an apology? Do we get some sort of acknowledgment for slices spot on points?

no, we get more cut and paste…..

i can literally smell the trollish desperation through my phone whilst drinking coffee waiting for the jet to arrive

Excargodog

You don't like FACTS posted by ISW or Ukrainian sources? And Slice posted an opinion - which he is as entitled to as I am to mine. Of course a four star that couldn't get a win in Afghanistan (or much of anywhere else) and is now an academic is entitled to his opinion too:

https://iac.gatech.edu/people/person/philip-breedlove

Just as I am entitled to mine. In the meantime, Hub adds another ad hominem attack (and at least one view to the view count which is currently at 221,460). One has to wonder how many of those views are just Hub spouting ad hominems, schoolboy taunts, and childish name-calling.