Ukraine conflict
03-29-2024, 07:22 PM
#2692
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Been to some desperate places. Ugly something awful in spots but don’t regret the experience. Whatever’s ahead was set long ago like a perfect sand hourglass. Nothing to be done about it but wait. Thou shalt not kill, lol. Happy Easter egg.
03-30-2024, 06:03 AM
#2693
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Taleban and Afghanistan had nothing to do with geopolitics. Geopolitics is when a country tries to take over another country and destabilize a whole region. Afghans were never about that, and going there was stupidity.
If people want to stone other people in their country to death, let them.
But if the Taleban tries to take over India, that's geopolitics.
If people want to stone other people in their country to death, let them.
But if the Taleban tries to take over India, that's geopolitics.
geopolitics
noun [ U ]
US /ˌdʒiː.oʊˈpɑː.lə.t̬ɪks/ UK /ˌdʒiː.əʊˈpɒl.ə.tɪks/
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the study of the way a country's size, position, etc. influence its power and its relationships with other countries
political activity as influenced by the physical featuresof a country or area of the world:
These developments are having a major impact on the geopolitics of the region.
That's simple ignorance.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, many former Soviet republics declared their independence, one after another, and a period of reconstruction for those nations began. However, this reconstruction was hindered by political, economic, social, and demographic problems. Foremost of these problems was Russian diaspora: Russian people and Russian-speaking communities in the former Soviet republics.
The borders between the former Soviet republics were internationally recognized with the Minsk and Almaty Agreements in 1991, consequently leaving sixty million people, twenty-five million of whom were Russians, out of their home countries.1 Ethnic Russian people and other Russian-speaking ethnic communities who had settled in Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan), southern Caucasia (Georgia and Azerbaijan), the Baltics (Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia), Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldavia became minority groups after the breakup of the Soviet Union (see figure).
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/portals/7/military-review/img/ENGLISHma2018/Figure-1-Sencerman.jpgFigure. Percentage of the Population that Identifies as Ethnic Russian(Graphic by Alyson Hurt, National Public Radio. Source: United Nations Statistics Division, CIA World Factbook)Enlarge the figure
As these newly independent states are re-creating their national identities, their Russian and Russian-speaking populations are facing discrimination and marginalization. However, the problems these minority communities are facing in the former Soviet states have started to affect the domestic politics of the Russian Federation (thereinafter referred to as Russia). Additionally, the Russian and Russian-speaking minorities living in Russia’s “near abroad” (the term used by Russians to describe the newly independent states created after the fall of the Soviet Union) are playing a key role in increasing Russia’s power in the region by influencing Russian politics and helping Russia re-create its own national identity.2 Russian diaspora is clearly tied to Russian foreign policy toward countries having Russian minorities.3
The borders between the former Soviet republics were internationally recognized with the Minsk and Almaty Agreements in 1991, consequently leaving sixty million people, twenty-five million of whom were Russians, out of their home countries.1 Ethnic Russian people and other Russian-speaking ethnic communities who had settled in Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan), southern Caucasia (Georgia and Azerbaijan), the Baltics (Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia), Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldavia became minority groups after the breakup of the Soviet Union (see figure).
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/portals/7/military-review/img/ENGLISHma2018/Figure-1-Sencerman.jpgFigure. Percentage of the Population that Identifies as Ethnic Russian(Graphic by Alyson Hurt, National Public Radio. Source: United Nations Statistics Division, CIA World Factbook)Enlarge the figure
As these newly independent states are re-creating their national identities, their Russian and Russian-speaking populations are facing discrimination and marginalization. However, the problems these minority communities are facing in the former Soviet states have started to affect the domestic politics of the Russian Federation (thereinafter referred to as Russia). Additionally, the Russian and Russian-speaking minorities living in Russia’s “near abroad” (the term used by Russians to describe the newly independent states created after the fall of the Soviet Union) are playing a key role in increasing Russia’s power in the region by influencing Russian politics and helping Russia re-create its own national identity.2 Russian diaspora is clearly tied to Russian foreign policy toward countries having Russian minorities.3
03-30-2024, 06:14 AM
#2694
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Nonsense. To quote the last honest liberal, you are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts. From the Cambridge Dictionary:
One can scarcely say that a country that has been invaded more or less unsuccessfully by Britain, the USSR, and the United States is not part of geopolitics. Or that the breakup of Yugoslavia was not about geopolitics, or that the islands of ethnic Hungarians and Russians in the Ukraine and Russians in Transnistria and other areas are not geopolitics.
That's simple ignorance.
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/March-April-2018/Sencerman-Russian-Diaspora/
One can scarcely say that a country that has been invaded more or less unsuccessfully by Britain, the USSR, and the United States is not part of geopolitics. Or that the breakup of Yugoslavia was not about geopolitics, or that the islands of ethnic Hungarians and Russians in the Ukraine and Russians in Transnistria and other areas are not geopolitics.
That's simple ignorance.
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/March-April-2018/Sencerman-Russian-Diaspora/
Your answer makes no sense, it is completely contradictory to what I said. Perhaps you are a Putin troll factory bot. That would make more sense than what you just wrote.
03-30-2024, 08:07 AM
#2695
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Geopolitics is when a country tries to take over another country and destabilize a whole region
03-30-2024, 10:57 AM
#2696
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only a russian bot would not be able to understand the difference between afghanistan and russia marching through eastern Europe unchecked. He has consistently shown his inability to understand nuance
03-30-2024, 12:48 PM
#2697
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That's damn poor return on investment and certainly not indicative of us being in "pole position).
But I understand, ad hominem attacks and none-calling are all you got when you get no facts to back up your positions.
03-30-2024, 02:22 PM
#2698
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The Afghan reference is in response to a claim that we had "the pole position in geopolitics." That's more than just chutzpah, it is idiotic. Nobody has "the pole position in geopolitics." For one, it isn't a race, but there really isn't anybody in control. Not NATO, not the UN, and not the US. CAN COUNTRIES (or even individuals) INFLUENCE geopolitics? Yeah, sometimes, to some extent. But as the example indicated, 20 years and $2.3 TRILLION American taxpayer dollars (gnot to mention 2400+ military deaths) weren't able to change Afghan culture sufficiently to keep 16 year olds in Afghanistan from being publicly flogged for not wearing a burqua or to keep them from being stoned to death for sex outside of marriage (even if it was her being raped).
That's damn poor return on investment and certainly not indicative of us being in "pole position).
But I understand, ad hominem attacks and none-calling are all you got when you get no facts to back up your positions.
That's damn poor return on investment and certainly not indicative of us being in "pole position).
But I understand, ad hominem attacks and none-calling are all you got when you get no facts to back up your positions.
03-30-2024, 03:48 PM
#2699
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That was never the mission in Afghanistan. The mission was to fight terrorists somewhere other than in New York or London. It worked, albeit at great expense & the fact that the expedition took on a life of its own that became very difficult to untangle from. Completely different proposition than countering a near peer/great power adversary on the world stage. In fact, we spent so much time focused on anti-terrorism, we took our eye off the ball WRT Russia & China. They were as happy to have us looking the other way then as they are now in fomenting discord & false disgust in ourselves. You, along with Tucker & the MAGA crowd, are falling for their bait.
it's time for the Europeans to get up off their pacifist environmentally green @$$es and defend their own interests. Three quarters of a century of carrying their load is enough.
So quit with the ad hominem attacks and name calling and do the numbers. There ARE near peer adversaries out there and you don't do yourself any favors by adding weak allies to an alliance whose members stopped being serious about defense 30+ years ago.
An alliance is like a chain. It is not made stronger by adding weak links to it. A great power like the United States gains no advantage and it loses prestige by offering, indeed peddling, its alliances to all and sundry. An alliance should be hard diplomatic currency, valuable and hard to get, and not inflationary paper from the mimeograph machine in the State Department.
Walter Lippmann
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03-31-2024, 05:46 AM
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That was never the mission in Afghanistan. The mission was to fight terrorists somewhere other than in New York or London. It worked, albeit at great expense & the fact that the expedition took on a life of its own that became very difficult to untangle from. Completely different proposition than countering a near peer/great power adversary on the world stage. In fact, we spent so much time focused on anti-terrorism, we took our eye off the ball WRT Russia & China. They were as happy to have us looking the other way then as they are now in fomenting discord & false disgust in ourselves. You, along with Tucker & the MAGA crowd, are falling for their bait.
personally i think he is not very smart. He latches on to something, thinking hes “got” it this time. And when his error is revealed, he is so immature and insecure he doubles down and drives through, unable to admit he was wrong. He is quoted on here saying a myriad of hilarious comments that he never had the courage to revisit and take ownership. He truly is the perfect target audience for RU propaganda. The maga boomer……obsessed, and yelling at the clouds, raised in an era where admitting fault is a weakness
just this latest example is perfect. Everyone knows that afghanistan and RU are not even remotely the same wrt geopolitical impact, and yet here we are….listening to a toddler wiggle because he cant just go back and say “ yup,I probably shouldn’t have used that as an example, you make a valid point”…….he is not capable. Ironically we all know a current GOP figure that behaves the same, and supports putin…….oh how the world turns
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