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Old 03-14-2024, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
A Russian military that in two years of fighting has barely taken 20% of their nearest neighbor is not an existential threat to Europe except through the use of nukes.
One more thing...

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You say Russia is ineffective as a military on one hand, because we gave the Ukrainians every Stinger and Javelin we had.

If we hadn't, the Ukrainian heads of state would now be executed and Russia would be setting sights on the Baltics. So, you can't claim they're not a threat while we've been actively mitigating that threat.

GTFO with that nonsense.
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Old 03-14-2024, 07:30 PM
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But as long as you are wanting us to be policeman to the world, there were recent military coups in Africa - Since 2021, in Sudan, Mali, Guinea, Burkina Faso, Niger and Gabon.

https://freedomhouse.org/article/sur...s-and-rule-law

Oh, and Haiti has again descended into chaos. Do you care equally about their rights and quality of life? No? I didn't think so.
Please do everyone a favor and not insult their intelligence by bringing up this argument for the third time. As has already been stated multiple times, this is about national interest. Can you even remember the conversations that have transpired over the last 18 months?
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Old 03-14-2024, 07:53 PM
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As has already been stated multiple times, this is about national interest.
Good to know. Not my war. If they get this far, they earned it. Take whatever you want. From my cold dead hands. Nobody wins every fight. Nobody wins forever. May God bless America
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Old 03-14-2024, 07:59 PM
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Good to know. Not my war. If they get this far, they earned it. Take whatever you want. From my cold dead hands. Nobody wins every fight. Nobody wins forever. May God bless America
who is “they”?

wth are you saying?
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Gosh Pollyanna, gaslighting is soooo, what’s the right word, obvious. Tell us more about how ashamed you are of this stupid, cowardly republic. Then maybe some lame bs about Tucker puppets. Finish up with a diatribe to pigeon droppings. Can’t wait.
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Old 03-14-2024, 08:34 PM
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Gosh Pollyanna, gaslighting is soooo, what’s the right word, obvious. Tell us more about how ashamed you are of this stupid, cowardly republic. Then maybe some lame bs about Tucker puppets. Finish up with a diatribe to pigeon droppings. Can’t wait.
No no... you've got it backwards. The United States is currently supporting our allies. And will continue into 2025.

It's a small minority of Russian-compromised cowards that thinks America can't lead anymore.
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Old 03-14-2024, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
You are the king of red herrings. Riverdance can't hold a candle to the way you dance around subjects.

Days of showing you how the world is inter-connected, how the European democracies and allies bolster America's influence globally, how Russia has sights on the Baltics and beyond, how NATO kept the Soviets in check during the Cold War.

None of it matters to you. You'll keep posting your propaganda long after I've bored sparring with you. Because despite all your verbosity, you are intellectually brain dead.
The world has ALWAYS been interconnected, even before WW1 and airplanes. That doesn't mean it is the responsibility of the USA to assure that no sparrow falls anywhere on Earth. Europe has always been a hotbed of competing cultures and yes, wars. People forget that the US kept out of the war in Europe in WWII having sort of learned our lesson from WWI. Three different neutrality acts were passed and signed into law in the 1930s demonstrating the US populace was fed up with participating in European wars.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/neutrality-acts

And it was not what was going on in Europe that finally got us into WWII, not directly anyway, it was what went on in the US Territory of Hawaii on Dec. 7, 1941 that did that. The US declared war on Japan the next day. Three days later both Germany and Italy declared war on the US and only after that did the US declare war on Germany and Italy.
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
It's a small minority of Russian-compromised cowards that thinks America can't lead anymore.
Like the guy that wrote this???

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
No no... you've got it backwards. The United States is currently supporting our allies. And will continue into 2025.

It's a small minority of Russian-compromised cowards that thinks America can't lead anymore.
Lead on the Russian steppe. China sea. Indian Ocean. Persian gulf. Right Ramses. Carry on.

Didn’t create heaven & earth. Sorry. Find someone else to blame. Cx the Bill of Rights, doubtful. If someone’s crazy enough to try, it’s going to get pretty loud before anything is settled. Wild is the West. Difficult to tame.


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Old 03-14-2024, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Gosh Pollyanna, gaslighting is soooo, what’s the right word, obvious. Tell us more about how ashamed you are of this stupid, cowardly republic. Then maybe some lame bs about Tucker puppets. Finish up with a diatribe to pigeon droppings. Can’t wait.
i just dont know who “they” are and i dont know what you are saying. So i dont know if you qualify for the aforementioned childish antics……
i am absolutely ashamed at the current GOP however, They let themselves get hijacked by nutjobs. All the rational moderates are leaving. Used to be the sane party

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