Ukraine conflict
03-03-2024, 08:53 PM
#2441
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21
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if not it will depend upon what leverage Ukraine has for negotiations. It isn't simply weapons, they actually DO need the extra 500,000 troops their recently deposed Chief of Staff was requesting, but the political will isn't there to conscript that heavily. They need more boots on the ground AND THE TIME TO TRAIN THEM (or someone else's already trained troops) - not just more arms and ammo.
03-03-2024, 08:56 PM
#2442
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You and METO need to have a gathering. You're bordering on his level of incoherence.
All I can (barely) read from your comments is that you have nothing good to say about America's foreign policy for the last 100 years. We've done nothing right, and in your eyes, we should go home ashamed of ourselves.
Is that right?
All I can (barely) read from your comments is that you have nothing good to say about America's foreign policy for the last 100 years. We've done nothing right, and in your eyes, we should go home ashamed of ourselves.
Is that right?
I gave specific examples to refute YOUR CLAIM that we "can shape world policy" and you are now trying to change the argument to "nothing good to say about American policy for the last hundred years. That's Sophistry of the first order. You should be ashamed
03-03-2024, 09:01 PM
#2443
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Hardly. Then what was the point of bringing up all of the collateral damage of American foreign policy? Because surely it's America's fault that Hamas invaded a music festival. At least, that's what I can infer by your comments.
03-03-2024, 09:02 PM
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Interest, money & time, each running quickly out on a hands tied slog with no end in sight. These are facts. Wail, jive, lolz with all your strength, minds don’t change without factual motives. You, Major coherent, offer check to check voters not one damn thing but more hubcrap. No dice 'bruh'
03-04-2024, 06:01 AM
#2445
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No, what you SHOULD infer from my comments is that the US DOES NOT "shape world policy and only a fool would believe we do. We can at times AFFECT policies at certain times and certain places but we do not and have never had the omnipotence to have "shaped" world policy and only someone totally lacking an understanding of history would believe that we have.
It's a huge world with billions of people all of whom are sort of like fleas on an elephant's @ss. You apparently think you (or by extension the US) are the mahout, but so do millions of other fleas from other countries.
Hell, random factors alone keep anyone from "shaping world policy" (who wanted COVID 19 to happen?) but as they say in War College, the enemy also gets a vote. You are a fool if you think otherwise.
03-04-2024, 06:38 AM
#2446
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https://www.politico.eu/article/ukra...-taurus-scalp/
That would actually be, Au Contraire...
Some excerpts:
Under fire: France insists it’s no slacker on military aid to Ukraine
Berlin has accused Paris of not pulling its weight on helping Ukraine. France begs to differ.Some excerpts:
Accused by Germany of not pulling its weight on aid to Ukraine, France struck back over the weekend by publishing for the first time a list of the military kit delivered to Kyiv between the start of the war and December 31.
According to the French, their military aid is worth €2.6 billion, much more than the meager €635 million calculated by the Kiel Institute, a German think tank that compiles an authoritative list of which country is pledging what to Ukraine. That index shows Germany is far and away the biggest European military aid donor to Ukraine — promising €17.7 billion.
French arms deliveries have been the focus of a growing rift between Paris and Berlin, with German officials publicly voicing frustration with France's smaller military aid. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has repeatedly called for an audit of national contributions amid discussion on how to calibrate an EU fund for reimbursing countries for their military donations to Kyiv.
French President Emmanuel Macron’s suggestion last week that Western troops might be deployed to Ukraine has deepeneddisagreements between the two countries.
French officials meanwhile privately express frustration that Germany is refusing to send its Taurus long-range cruise missiles, something that would match France and the U.K., which have handed over their similar SCALP and Storm Shadow missiles.
According to the French, their military aid is worth €2.6 billion, much more than the meager €635 million calculated by the Kiel Institute, a German think tank that compiles an authoritative list of which country is pledging what to Ukraine. That index shows Germany is far and away the biggest European military aid donor to Ukraine — promising €17.7 billion.
French arms deliveries have been the focus of a growing rift between Paris and Berlin, with German officials publicly voicing frustration with France's smaller military aid. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has repeatedly called for an audit of national contributions amid discussion on how to calibrate an EU fund for reimbursing countries for their military donations to Kyiv.
French President Emmanuel Macron’s suggestion last week that Western troops might be deployed to Ukraine has deepeneddisagreements between the two countries.
French officials meanwhile privately express frustration that Germany is refusing to send its Taurus long-range cruise missiles, something that would match France and the U.K., which have handed over their similar SCALP and Storm Shadow missiles.
Challenging Kiel
French officials including Lecornu have long been critical of the Kiel Institute’s methodology, arguing that the German organization uses pledges and not actual deliveries to calculate countries’ contributions. Last week, the French armed forces minister told lawmakers he’s encouraging French think tanks to come up with their own rankings.
There's also a question of how many aid promises are actually fulfilled.
Half of the West’s commitments on military gear don’t arrive in time, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov complained last month, giving weight to France's claim that there’s a difference between words and deeds.
Half of the West’s commitments on military gear don’t arrive in time, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov complained last month, giving weight to France's claim that there’s a difference between words and deeds.
03-04-2024, 08:05 AM
#2447
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Interest, money & time, each running quickly out on a hands tied slog with no end in sight. These are facts. Wail, jive, lolz with all your strength, minds don’t change without factual motives. You, Major coherent, offer check to check voters not one damn thing but more hubcrap. No dice 'bruh'
Honest question, can anyone translate this?
03-04-2024, 08:06 AM
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In that case you lack the capacity to understand simple arguments. That's your problem, not mine. Those things weren't "collateral damage of American foreign policy' those were examples of INABILITY TO "shape world policy." It ain't the same thing.
No, what you SHOULD infer from my comments is that the US DOES NOT "shape world policy and only a fool would believe we do. We can at times AFFECT policies at certain times and certain places but we do not and have never had the omnipotence to have "shaped" world policy and only someone totally lacking an understanding of history would believe that we have.
It's a huge world with billions of people all of whom are sort of like fleas on an elephant's @ss. You apparently think you (or by extension the US) are the mahout, but so do millions of other fleas from other countries.
Hell, random factors alone keep anyone from "shaping world policy" (who wanted COVID 19 to happen?) but as they say in War College, the enemy also gets a vote. You are a fool if you think otherwise.
No, what you SHOULD infer from my comments is that the US DOES NOT "shape world policy and only a fool would believe we do. We can at times AFFECT policies at certain times and certain places but we do not and have never had the omnipotence to have "shaped" world policy and only someone totally lacking an understanding of history would believe that we have.
It's a huge world with billions of people all of whom are sort of like fleas on an elephant's @ss. You apparently think you (or by extension the US) are the mahout, but so do millions of other fleas from other countries.
Hell, random factors alone keep anyone from "shaping world policy" (who wanted COVID 19 to happen?) but as they say in War College, the enemy also gets a vote. You are a fool if you think otherwise.
winning the cold war ring a bell? I know its hard for an extremist like you to understand, but the GOP used to be my party of choice when they focused on foreign policy and not arguing with scientists or using the survival of a democratic country as leverage for votes……
Only a moron would take some failures to mean that there haven’t been successes. Come on man, at least be intellectually, honest with what you’re talking about.
03-04-2024, 09:41 AM
#2449
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Means Ur busy pi&&ing up a rope?? In addition to insult strafing bb's.
As so coherently mentioned, this is internet turf. Stepped into it as middle age rambler. But I am what I am here, there & everywhere. Tough keyboard 0-4s ought be assigned next of kin detail. See how far that lol of yours gets past the doorbell.
As so coherently mentioned, this is internet turf. Stepped into it as middle age rambler. But I am what I am here, there & everywhere. Tough keyboard 0-4s ought be assigned next of kin detail. See how far that lol of yours gets past the doorbell.
03-04-2024, 12:58 PM
#2450
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"you win some, you lose some" is indicative of flipping a coin and calling "heads", not indicative of "shaping word world policy since the Yalta conference." Only a moron would think that.
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