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Old 03-03-2024, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
Anytime you're losing real bad, you pull that one out of your deck.

Your service does not excuse your two years of what is clearly an opinion against the interests of the United States. You've never explained how the US remains unscathed if Europe falls into further chaos. The reason you haven't is that we don't escape it. You believe that somehow oceans will protect us from the instability and recession that full-scale war will bring. You're wrong.

And all the crying over spilled milk does not change that reality.

Abandoning allies in their time of need would be a scar that this country will carry for longer than both our lives. Let's hope that never happens.
Oh come on... who are you kidding? The brothers Diem, the Shah, the South Vietnamese, and more recently the people on our side in Afghanistan we deserted to the tender mercies of the Taliban. Or doesn't the guy crushed to death in the gear doors of the C-17, or the others who fell off as it climbed out count in your opinion.

The US remains unscathed it Europe gets it's act together and won't be able to save it if it doesn't. But the OPTIONS are still the same:

1. A negotiated solution
2. US boots on the ground
3. Tactical nukes
4 Strategic nukes.

Which one are you going to pick?
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Find a better alibi. bb’s aren’t nearly the anonymity shield many fools mistake them for
Lol, once again you are trying too hard, and I have no idea what you are saying.
Maybe try and tone back your pretentious ramblings
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Oh come on... who are you kidding? The brothers Diem, the Shah, the South Vietnamese, and more recently the people on our side in Afghanistan we deserted to the tender mercies of the Taliban. Or doesn't the guy crushed to death in the gear doors of the C-17, or the others who fell off as it climbed out count in your opinion.

The US remains unscathed it Europe gets it's act together and won't be able to save it if it doesn't. But the OPTIONS are still the same:

1. A negotiated solution
2. US boots on the ground
3. Tactical nukes
4 Strategic nukes.

Which one are you going to pick?
absolute bullsh1t. The 5th option that was working that you so conveniently seem to leave out of your agenda driven ramblings was providing arms. They were holding until the RU infused GOP maga crowd pulled the plug. I can only imagine you are doing this on purpose since you have “extensive” military experience shuffling cargo around lol…..clown show
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
the geopolitical fallout will be terrible. We will lose the ability shape world policy, risking the lives of future Americans.

all for old equipment and 10% of our annual dod budget…..
What? We can shape world policy now? Then, why did we just turn Afghanistan back to the Taliban after 20 years and $2.3 Trillion of shaping world policy there. Have you been following what is going on there?

https://thehill.com/opinion/4505291-...n-accountable/

And how come - if we can shape world policy - we let Iraq develop nukes. Or Hamas to kidnap rape and kill all those people from the rave? And if we can shape world policy, why have we been letting all the feckless NATO allies skate on their 2% of their gdp?

Yiu keep talking about "shaping world policy," to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that means what you think it means."
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:40 PM
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absolute bullsh1t. The 5th option that was working that you so conveniently seem to leave out of your agenda driven ramblings was providing arms. They were holding until the RU infused GOP maga crowd pulled the plug. I can only imagine you are doing this on purpose since you have “extensive” military experience shuffling cargo around lol…..clown show
They were and are being beat to death, The longer this continues, the more damage they will incur. That is the ONLY thing you can say with certainty.
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
They were and are being beat to death, The longer this continues, the more damage they will incur. That is the ONLY thing you can say with certainty.
You fail to extrapolate what happens after the Ukrainians lay down their arms.

Roses and sunshine? Do tell. Since you are so well-versed in statecraft, tell me what Russian-occupied Ukraine looks like.
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
Anytime you're losing real bad, you pull that one out of your deck.
So that would be a no then. Well, were you at least a member of some uniformed organization in yiur life, Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts?

From where do you derive all your military know how?
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
What? We can shape world policy now? Then, why did we just turn Afghanistan back to the Taliban after 20 years and $2.3 Trillion of shaping world policy there. Have you been following what is going on there?

https://thehill.com/opinion/4505291-...n-accountable/

And how come - if we can shape world policy - we let Iraq develop nukes. Or Hamas to kidnap rape and kill all those people from the rave? And if we can shape world policy, why have we been letting all the feckless NATO allies skate on their 2% of their gdp?

Yiu keep talking about "shaping world policy," to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that means what you think it means."
You and METO need to have a gathering. You're bordering on his level of incoherence.

All I can (barely) read from your comments is that you have nothing good to say about America's foreign policy for the last 100 years. We've done nothing right, and in your eyes, we should go home ashamed of ourselves.

Is that right?
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Old 03-03-2024, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
What? We can shape world policy now? Then, why did we just turn Afghanistan back to the Taliban after 20 years and $2.3 Trillion of shaping world policy there. Have you been following what is going on there?

https://thehill.com/opinion/4505291-...n-accountable/

And how come - if we can shape world policy - we let Iraq develop nukes. Or Hamas to kidnap rape and kill all those people from the rave? And if we can shape world policy, why have we been letting all the feckless NATO allies skate on their 2% of their gdp?

Yiu keep talking about "shaping world policy," to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that means what you think it means."
You brought up this point already, and i wouldnt dare to infringe on the rather eloquent and succinct response you already received…..

Do try and track the conversation
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So that would be a no then. Well, were you at least a member of some uniformed organization in yiur life, Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts?

From where do you derive all your military know how?
For someone who touts their military experience, it's time for you to put up or shut up.

What was your rank? MOS? Were you some Colonel's orderly?
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