Ukraine conflict
03-02-2024, 01:58 PM
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Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
03-02-2024, 02:17 PM
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03-03-2024, 07:54 AM
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Netherlands’ Rutte Signs Security Deal in Ukraine, Promising Artillery Funding
The Dutch prime minister signed a security deal with Ukraine in the northeastern city of Kharkiv and said the Netherlands would help fund the supply of 800,000 artillery shells.by Euroactiv March 3, 2024, 9:13 am
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and it isn't even that they increased the amount all that much recently, part of that is just that their GDP declined because of the sanctions and COVID:
- Netherlands gdp for 2022 was $991.11B, a 2.04% decline from 2021.
- Netherlands gdp for 2021 was $1,011.80B, a 11.21% increase from 2020.
- Netherlands gdp for 2020 was $909.79B, a 0.04% decline from 2019.
- Netherlands gdp for 2019 was $910.19B, a 0.42% decline from 2018.
https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows...-dutch-dilemma
03-03-2024, 08:38 AM
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03-03-2024, 10:40 AM
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This topic demands a higher threshold of conduct. Never once sold-out, suggested or hinted to represent an operating air carrier, here. Posters professing to represent service branches, most especially their officer ranks, discredit families of those serving, retired or buried by posting running commentary of cringeworthy, JV insults. Opinion, fine. Slander, not. Bear in mind ALL the fallen conscripts of this war. Souls snatched from QOL in a dismal measure of humanity’s lack of progress. Did you take any time to reflect on the column of brave defiance trailing Navalny’s box? Have to pickle them too if push comes to shove.
03-03-2024, 12:16 PM
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For damn sure our NATO allies at least wouldn't be scrounging around so hard trying to find ammunition.
Nor would a surprising number of the "war fighting" equipment they did furnish turn out to be poorly maintained junk.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/28/w...ine-tanks.html
There may have been many ways to avoid all these tragic deaths - our NATO allies not being 'free riders' is almost certainly one of them.
03-03-2024, 01:54 PM
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If crying over spilled milk was a person. Or an airline pilot. Do you constantly beat up your FOs for bad landings from last week?
03-03-2024, 03:54 PM
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Was referring to myself.
This topic demands a higher threshold of conduct. Never once sold-out, suggested or hinted to represent an operating air carrier, here. Posters professing to represent service branches, most especially their officer ranks, discredit families of those serving, retired or buried by posting running commentary of cringeworthy, JV insults. Opinion, fine. Slander, not. Bear in mind ALL the fallen conscripts of this war. Souls snatched from QOL in a dismal measure of humanity’s lack of progress. Did you take any time to reflect on the column of brave defiance trailing Navalny’s box? Have to pickle them too if push comes to shove.
This topic demands a higher threshold of conduct. Never once sold-out, suggested or hinted to represent an operating air carrier, here. Posters professing to represent service branches, most especially their officer ranks, discredit families of those serving, retired or buried by posting running commentary of cringeworthy, JV insults. Opinion, fine. Slander, not. Bear in mind ALL the fallen conscripts of this war. Souls snatched from QOL in a dismal measure of humanity’s lack of progress. Did you take any time to reflect on the column of brave defiance trailing Navalny’s box? Have to pickle them too if push comes to shove.
03-03-2024, 03:57 PM
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So was keeping them supported until our “feckless” maga RU influenced GOP pulled the rug out from under them, but i dont hear you whining about that vlad. I wonder why?
03-03-2024, 04:06 PM
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https://en.defence-ua.com/events/net...back-5467.html
Excerpts:
Precisely speaking, by the end of the Cold War, the Netherlands Armed Forces had as many as 441 Leopard 2A4 tanks at disposal. However, after the "iron curtain" dividing Europe fell, the Dutch started to actively sell their military equipment. By the mid-1990s, there were only around 200 Leopard 2A6NL tanks in the Dutch army.
Then by 2011, the armored vehicles fleet of the Netherlands shrank to 73 units of Leopard 2A6NL after they sold 38 combat vehicles to Portugal and 20 more to Canada. It was when Hague decided it was time to discard the tanks as a type of weapon entirely.
Then by 2011, the armored vehicles fleet of the Netherlands shrank to 73 units of Leopard 2A6NL after they sold 38 combat vehicles to Portugal and 20 more to Canada. It was when Hague decided it was time to discard the tanks as a type of weapon entirely.
The year 2014 came, and the russian federation started a hybrid war against Ukraine, occupied Crimea and launched warfare in Ukraine's eastern regions. Amid these events, the Netherlands realized that misjudging the tank arsenal's importance was a strategic blunder.
The only way to correct the mistake, in their opinion, was to formally ask Germany to lease 18 of its former tanks that had already been modernized by the new owner, the other two were remade as practice vehicles.
The only way to correct the mistake, in their opinion, was to formally ask Germany to lease 18 of its former tanks that had already been modernized by the new owner, the other two were remade as practice vehicles.
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