Excargodog

Never said I was OK with any of that but facts are facts and whose morally superior doesn't change facts on the ground. Russia may have a $hitty government but they are still the largest country in the world - occupying 11% of the total world land mass - with a population that was three times the size of Ukraines population even before Ukraine sent seven million refugees to the EU. It currently has a population four times that of the Ukraine. In square area, Russia is THIRTY-SIX TIMES the area of the Ukraine even before it seized ~20% of the Ukraine. The infrastructure of the Ukraine has been largely destroyed in this war while the infrastructure of Russia is largely untouched. It is a HUGE resource mismatch.

You can pretend that the righteousness of the cause will offset the resource mismatch all you want, but reality is going to assert itself. The major NATO economies - Germany, France, Italy, and Spain have been underfunding their own militaries for half a century (they couldn't even stop genocide on their own doorstep during the breakup of Yugoslavia) but SERIOUSLY underfunding their militaries since the breakup of the USSR. They can provide little help in munitions or manpower even if they desired to do so which they don't. So unless the US is going to actually put troops on the ground in the Ukraine the resource mismatch will only continue. And we AREN'T going to put troops on the ground or even enforce a no-fly zone over the Ukraine for fear of sparking a nuclear war.

Now those are simply facts, and falsely claiming I'm "OK" with people committing war crimes doesn't change that. It's like me saying pi is an irrational number that it is approximately 3.14159265359... but that in actuality it's a non terminating non repeating decimal. That doesn't mean I like it that way, like generations of school kids I'd really rather it was 3.0 or even 4.0, but it isn't. I'm not cheering it on by admitting that reality. It just is. Same with the resource mismatch with this war.

Lowslung

You should look up the word 'tacit'.

Excargodog

You should look up the word 'reality'.

You seem to believe that every pathologist that looks in a microscope and reports he/she sees a malignancy is a cancer fanboy/girl.

Hubcapped

Lol, heres some timber and wood to help you bridge the gap between some nebulous potential, and the ACTUAL placement of nuclear weapons in cuba.

Ill post the questions just in case you may be too busy hammering away on your agenda:

1.If nato is a threat, why has the RU pulled 80% of its forces from nato borders?

2. how do you invade a country with thousands of nuclear weapons?

i knew you couldn’t answer

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METO Guido

So the US will protect borders anytime, anywhere across 5 oceans when proved defenseless along its own. Splendid. CA just earmarked 3b+ for migrant healthcare. Maybe they can fund global freedom’s war-chest too. Not going to happen.


Transparent Goof. Happy?

Lowslung

Kind of a false dichotomy. You're never ever going to see a perfect domestic situation in the United States. There will always be issues: poverty, violence, immigration, race. The list goes on. People in the sixties said we shouldn't go to the moon until poverty was solved. Pretty short sighted argument if you ask me. Same goes for a blanket argument against providing international aid until our own border issues are cleaned up. It's a lazy & simplistic argument that fails to account for the real benefits we get for leading the charge in safeguarding stability and security around the world.

METO Guido

Don your mask, establish com, deal with what may be done. Without passion or pity. Changing the culture people you can’t begin to understand was learned Tet ‘68. We just don’t learn. If I’m wrong, tell me where. It’s why I’m here.

Lowslung

Well for one thing, we're not actively doing any of the fighting in Ukraine. More importantly, the Ukrainians are actively asking for help, vs the Vietnamese who were, at best, waiting for us to leave and, at worst, actively participating in an insurgency against us. Europe, even the eastern part, is a far cry from Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. I agree that it's frustrating to be thrust into some far flung country's civil war in a vain attempt to nation build. It's quite another thing to provide support to a friendly nation attempting to thwart a vicious and brazen Russian invasion.

Excargodog

Cuba - 90 miles from any part of the US. Over water. 230 miles to first large town (Miami).
Russia - SHARES A 1227 mile LAND border with the Ukraine. And as noted above, five NATO countries already have bases with US nukes stored and two other NATO countries have nukes of their own. And I do not have to intellectually justify Russian paranoia for it to be a fact.

As for you apparently believing that NATO is not a threat, if it isn't a threat, just what the hell good is it? The NATO bases are SUPPOSED to be a threat. See definition below:

How does one invade a country with thousands of nuclear weapons? Easily. Look at our southern border.

https://homeland.house.gov/2023/10/2...-borders-ever/

once again, yiu seem incapable of actually dealing with facts.

METO Guido

And I Agree it’s all of that. Respect enemies for what they’re willing to kill themselves over. Only then commit as fully engaged. Not as others decide for you. Proxy wars are losers. Russian kids bleeding for nothing are victims too. There is little credible evidence anyone outside the battlefield is in this for keeps. Lombardi had it right. Winning IS the only thing.