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Old 12-06-2023, 07:14 AM
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EU in disarray over plan to fund Ukraine from frozen Russian assets

Most EU governments reject the idea put forward by Spain, arguing Kyiv would not get the money quickly enough.https://www.politico.eu/cdn-cgi/image/width=1160,height=772,quality=80,onerror=redirect, format=auto/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/05/GettyImages-1708893649-scaled.jpgEU officials have been exploring ways to skim off the earnings from assets worth some $300 billion that were immobilized after the war began Sergey Bobok/AFP via Getty Images
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BRUSSELS ― EU countries have poured cold water on a plan to use revenue generated from Russian assets frozen since the start of Moscow's invasion of Ukraine to support the war-torn country's reconstruction.

Several ambassadors from the bloc’s 27 governments argued that an idea drawn up by Spain, in its role at the helm of the EU’s rotating six-month presidency, would not give Ukraine’s economy the urgent boost it needs, and instead risks undermining the EU’s commitment to provide support to Kyiv.

For months, EU officials have been exploring ways to skim off the earnings from assets worth some $300 billion that were immobilized after the war began. But the plan has drawn skepticism from some governments, including France and Germany, as well as from the European Central Bank, which fears it could cause instability in the euro currency.

https://www.politico.eu/article/plan...e-in-disarray/

The idea to use the cash generated by the frozen assets emerged from a review of how the EU spends its money, which Spain is conducting.

The Commission has said it wants to give Kyiv €17 billion in grants plus €33 billion in low-interest loans up to 2027 to prevent the country from going bankrupt. If that money doesn't come from the earnings generated by the frozen assets, it would have to be funded from elsewhere.

Any decision will require unanimity among all 27 member countries.

Given that Spain’s proposal was so contrary to the views of most other governments, several diplomats speculated it had been drafted by Spanish government officials in Madrid with little knowledge of the mood across the rest of the EU.
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CDC reports "alarming" rise in drug-resistant germs in Ukraine

BY ALEXANDER TIN

DECEMBER 7, 2023 / 1:00 PM EST / CBS NEWS

Hospitals in Ukraine are now battling an "alarming increase" in germs with resistance to the last-ditch antibiotic medications used to treat the infections, a study published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday.

Officials are now calling for the "urgent crisis" to be addressed, and warning that the drug-resistant germs are spreading beyond the war-torn country's borders.

The researchers, including scientists from the CDC and Ukraine's health ministry, sampled hundreds of Ukrainian patients for infections they caught while being treated at the hospital in November and December last year.

Their surveys, detailed in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, found that about 60% of patients with infections were battling germs resistant to carbapenem antibiotics. The CDC describes these kinds of antibiotics as often the "last line of defense" doctors wield to fight off bacteria after other options fail to work.

By contrast, just around 6.2% of samples of similar kinds of infections were resistant to carbapenem antibiotics in an European study through 2017.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-dru...ia-in-ukraine/

up until WWI - the first war of the industrial age - disease typically killed more people in an army than actual combat casualties. Even with the use of machine guns, tanks, mustard and other war gases, WW1 only barely had more combat casualties than disease deaths. In the oreantibiotic era, even trench foot could turn deadly and require amputations.

it looks like trench warfare is again serving as a breeding ground for all manner of infections, most not responding well to more common antibiotics and some not responding well to ANY antibiotics.
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The media event planned next week. So if that’s not Putin, who is it?
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Oh this is still going on.


Did we solve Russia v Ukraine yet? No? Oh. But I thought "we are going to show them!"



Well now we have Israel v Palestine. And right before the world gets too bored, China v Taiwan.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Did we solve Russia v Ukraine yet? No? Oh. But I thought "we are going to show them!"
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Have you tracked how much men and material the RU has lost? Lets see you post those numbers
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Have you tracked how much men and material the RU has lost? Lets see you post those numbers
No dog in that fight, I'm not gonna go looking up those numbers. I would imagine they're terrible. And that Ukraine has suffered bad lossest too.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No dog in that fight, I'm not gonna go looking up those numbers. I would imagine they're terrible. And that Ukraine has suffered bad lossest too.
So you have no idea what you’re talking about. Copy

back to your regularly scheduled cut’n paste. Just make sure you expand your view because the colonel seems to leave out alot of news that doesn’t fit his agenda.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Oh this is still going on.


Did we solve Russia v Ukraine yet? No? Oh. But I thought "we are going to show them!"



Well now we have Israel v Palestine. And right before the world gets too bored, China v Taiwan.

Goin on & on & on. Atomic heavies v fanatic featherweights. Hard year for underdogs. Otoh, did David not deliver Goliath’s head as promised?
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
So you have no idea what you’re talking about. Copy

back to your regularly scheduled cut’n paste. Just make sure you expand your view because the colonel seems to leave out alot of news that doesn’t fit his agenda.
You are certainly entitled to post any GOOD news for Ukraine you can find. You did, after all, start this thread. Although your wildly optomistic David driving out Goliath predictions including the likely outcome of the Spring Offensive certainly seem to have been off the mark.

I didn't say it first but it is still true:

Amateurs study strategy, professionals study logistics.”

― Omar Bradley
Ukraine has always been at a tremendous disadvantage in logistics and manpower. The nations of Western Europe have been underfunding their own militaries and neglecting their own military industrial base for a half century now and are riven by their own national politics. In fairness, our own defense industrial base isn't in that great a shape either. That's not to say that a good little man can't ever beat a good big man in a fight, but that generally isn't the way to bet.
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Still feckless after all these years...


BRUSSELS, Dec 6 (Reuters) - European Union countries have placed orders for only 60,000 artillery shells under an EU scheme to help get 1 million rounds of ammunition to Ukraine by next spring, according to people familiar with the figures.

The scheme was a centrepiece of an EU initiative to ramp up the supply of vital 155mm artillery shells to Ukraine, allowing countries to place orders with industry through contracts negotiated by the bloc's European Defence Agency (EDA).

The broader initiative, launched in March, offered various schemes to get 1 million shells and missiles to Ukraine within a year for the war against Russia's invasion.

Together, those schemes have yielded some 480,000 munitions, according to the EU - less than half of the target, with about four months to go.

The particularly small volume of orders for the scheme at the heart of the programme highlights bigger struggles that the EU is facing in trying to hit the target.

In a sign of concern at the low volume of orders so far, a draft declaration for an EU summit next week "stresses the urgent need to accelerate the delivery of missiles and ammunition, notably under the one million rounds of artillery ammunition initiative".

Artillery rounds are a crucial element in the war of attrition between Ukrainian troops and Russia's invasion forces, with each side firing thousands of shells every day.

The European Defence Agency said in September that seven countries had ordered ammunition through the pioneering joint procurement scheme. Lithuania, Denmark and Luxembourg said they were among the seven.

The EDA did not specify the size of the orders. But people familiar with the figures told Reuters on condition of anonymity the total was just 60,000 shells.

Another option for EU members was to deliver from existing stocks, yielding some 300,000 shells and missiles, the EU says.

Other munitions have been ordered through a scheme that allows EU countries to piggy-backonto contracts signed by one "lead nation".

German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said last month the EU would miss the 1 million target, echoing a view expressed privately by some diplomats and officials.

But others including EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell have insisted the goal remains.

Borrell hailed the plan to send 1 million shells to Ukraine within a year as "historic" when it was agreed in March. The initiative allows countries to get partial refunds on their orders through an EU-run fund, the European Peace Facility.

DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS

Officials and industry leaders have offered different explanations for the EU's struggle to meet the goal.

Some argue that many governments have simply not backed up their rhetoric about supporting Ukraine for the long haul by placing orders with arms firms.

Others insist that it takes time for industry to ramp up and restart production of such artillery shells, which until recently were not viewed as a priority for modern warfare.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said last week he thought the problems were more technical than political.

"People with special knowledge of how things work - how spare parts work, how chains of supply work - they have to sit down and sort it out," he said.

Some officials have also blamed a decision to restrict the joint procurement drive to companies from the EU and Norway.

Asked whether it could confirm the 60,000 figure, the European Defence Agency said it did not comment on numbers.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2023-12-06/
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