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Old 10-11-2023, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Do some homework and check back in with the results of the RU attack north and south of the ukranian bulge in the eastern sector.


Im also shocked you didnt post anything about how poland is building ukraine a grain export facility. Since you know……youre fair and balanced and want to circle back on your claims of deteriorating relations between the two?
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:13 PM
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$$$ Biden Bucks and old equipment to Ukraine.

Cutting edge USN carrier battle groups to the Med for Israel.

I think the Ukraine has officially become "back burner".
Middle east has more direct and immediate relevance to the global economy.

Plus we as a nation are pretty sympathetic to IL.. USA is basically the alternate Zion.
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
Im also shocked you didnt post anything about how poland is building ukraine a grain export facility. Since you know……youre fair and balanced and want to circle back on your claims of deteriorating relations between the two?
nope


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Being flooded with refugees is a tough pill to swallow.
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Old 10-11-2023, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
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You specifically made a post about Ukrainian grain causing problems, but i guess you just couldn’t bring yourself to do it lol.

did you do your homework on the eastern attack? You going to be a big boy and tell us what happened to both arms?

or is this just one more of the thousands of negative articles that you post and never circle back to?

what say you col cut and paste?
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Old 10-12-2023, 09:38 PM
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For most of the world, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is the face of Ukrainian resistance to a 19-month-old Russian invasion with no end in sight. As such, he has made the pitch for continued Western resolve and support his top priority everywhere he goes.

So, while his launch of a "strategic partnership" alongside Romanian President Klaus Iohannis this week was good news for Kyiv, it might have been overshadowed by what didn't happen in Bucharest.

Faced with threats from nationalist, pro-Russian lawmakers of something "bad" happening if they "caught" Zelenskiy in the Romanian Parliament, official plans were abandoned for the Ukrainian head of state to give a speech to lawmakers.

Iohannis and other Romanian officials were tight-lipped about the climbdown, except to cite time constraints and a "busy" schedule.

At a press conference at the presidential residence, Zelenskiy -- a popular TV comic before becoming a wartime president -- joked diplomatically that while "you understand that I don't have a problem with speeches, in any country…I haven't prepared any speech, with all due respect."

"I'm not ready to do it," he said. "But next time, I assure you that I'll come and give a speech, with great pleasure."But the timing was particularly awkward, with fresh talk of Ukraine war fatigue among Western allies fueled by Congressional wavering in the United States and government positions seemingly hardening in Warsaw and Bratislava.

Valentin Naumescu, a professor of international relations at Babes-Bolyai University in Cluj and director of the Center for the Study of the European Union's External Relations and Global Order (EUXGLOB Center), said the cancellation represented an "abandonment of the discourse" and was "extremely depressing" for Romania in particular.

"It created the impression of a vulnerable and weak country where nationalists, extremists, and pro-Russians impose their agenda," Naumescu said. "We are witnessing an increase in anti-Western [sentiment] that manages to intimidate the leadership at the top of the Romanian state, the fundamental institutions of democracy."

Romania shares over 600 kilometers of border with Ukraine, including land and maritime boundaries. Along with a handful of other so-called frontline EU and NATO states, Romania is a key alternate export route for Ukrainian goods otherwise blockaded by Russia's Black Sea naval forces.


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Originally Posted by Excargodog
i knew you had neither the integrity nor courage. Keep it up col cut and paste, the world is listening to you
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i knew you had neither the integrity nor courage. Keep it up col cut and paste, the world is listening to you
The childish name calling and insults notwithstanding, the reality is still that logistics matters and the long history of inter cultural competition and conflict in Europe make it unlikely that the Ukraine will find success in their stated desire to reclaim all territory internationally recognized as theirs. And by that metric, this is currently stagnated with little to show for the “Spring Offensive” and fading support from their nominal allies. In real life, the good guys don’t always win simply because they ARE the good guys. Eventually this - like most conflicts in which neither side can force unconditional surrender - will end in a negotiated settlement, and it does not appear that time favors the Ukraine.



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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The childish name calling and insults notwithstanding, the reality is still that logistics matters and the long history of inter cultural competition and conflict in Europe make it unlikely that the Ukraine will find success in their stated desire to reclaim all territory internationally recognized as theirs. And by that metric, this is currently stagnated with little to show for the “Spring Offensive” and fading support from their nominal allies. In real life, the good guys don’t always win simply because they ARE the good guys. Eventually this - like most conflicts in which neither side can force unconditional surrender - will end in a negotiated settlement, and it does not appear that time favors the Ukraine.



please follow up with your poland grain article
please follow up with your RU blitzkrieg offensive article

anything else is just words

The two articles in question are not about logistics so i have no idea what you are going on about.

a man with integrity and courage would circle back and say “i was wrong, poland is ok working with ukraine on moving their grain”

a man with integrity would circle back and say “ i was premature about raising alarm over the RU offensive in adrivka. It looks like the reality is that the RU cannot advance more than a few hundred meters, lost 36 confirmed tanks and almost 70 heavy vehicles in 72 hours. They are now stuck with dismounted infantry and are getting pounded by Ukranian arty.”
a man of integrity and courage follows through


remember friend, I AM NOT originating subjective bullsh1t, i am responding to your incessant imbalanced whining. If you dont like responses then dont post subjective crap all day everyday.

Disclaimer to rational adults not media driven to fear porn:

the above synopsis is a snapshot in time. ISW is assessing that the RU forces are applying lessons learned from kherson and kyiv offensives. They are attempting counter battery, artillery preparation, and some combined arms with mi-28s and EW systems. However in the last 72 hours it is confirmed they have lost almost a brigades worth of heavy equipment for almost no real gains, with the encirclement of the city not assessed to be achievable in the current state. Things change quickly however. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by Excargodog
In real life, the good guys don’t always win simply because they ARE the good guys. Eventually this - like most conflicts in which neither side can force unconditional surrender - will end in a negotiated settlement, and it does not appear that time favor
Sad reality. Whether thug regime, divine ruling screwballs or any one of a hundred terrorist revolutionary fronts, liberating oppressed flags on distant battlegrounds, forever temporary as summarily forgotten. Repaid only with acts of bitter retribution just ahead of angry demand for tapping already grossly overdrawn accounts..the American service branches, the US treasury.

Might get really down over it without the Miata & enough matching Bermuda shorts for a full week’s top down, therapeutic rerouting.
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