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Old 09-29-2023, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by T1000
No appreciably movement on the line after all summer. Probably the new line is gonna be the deal. Might go on indefinitely at the line. My opinion not based on fact, just supposition.
I agree that this is most likely. I also believe this is the best deal that either side can get. What pigeon doesnt understand is that to throw a map on a wall and claim “stalemate” is not understanding the method of this war. (This gets subjective) the attritional gradient is indicative of shaping operations as pushed by miley. Even the worst case 3rd party organizations claim losses at roughly 3-1 in ukrainian favor. This was facilitated by the EU who put up almost twice as much as the US (relative to GDP) despite the overused word of feckless like some child, the EU has stepped up. If not, ukraine just wouldn’t exist right now. Despite what our poor tucker infused russbot wishes to be true, the reality is in the numbers, not fox news.



lets not forget the claims:

europe will abandon them in 22-didn’t happen

Russian army is too big-not anymore

the mine fields are to extensive-broken through in the south



They’ll just keep going to justify the basic cowardice of appeasement as engineered by the RU propaganda playing the heartstrings of our population that can’t quite grasp things have changed. It scares them, they get played…..simple
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Old 09-29-2023, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
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there are a couple facts that get skipped by the right wing extremist. Trump and 18 of his associates had 140 documented interactions with RU agents as confirmed by the DOJ. You can not like that, you can say its all a conspiracy, but it is what it is.

to get ahead of tucker vlads incessant insecure posting, 2 wrongs dont make a right. I learned that in 3rd grade. Burn them all
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Old 09-30-2023, 06:00 AM
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Ever read Herman Wouk’s The Winds of War ?

This is looking more and more like the opening chapters…
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Old 09-30-2023, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
What pigeon doesnt understand is that to throw a map on a wall and claim “stalemate” is not understanding the method of this war. This was facilitated by the EU who put up almost twice as much as the US (relative to GDP) despite the overused word of feckless like some child, the EU has stepped up...Despite what our poor tucker infused russbot wishes to be true..They’ll just keep going to justify the basic cowardice of appeasement as engineered by the RU propaganda playing the heartstrings of our population that can’t quite grasp things have changed. It scares them, they get played…..simple
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there are a couple facts that get skipped by the right wing extremist...to get ahead of tucker vlads incessant insecure posting, 2 wrongs dont make a right. I learned that in 3rd grade. Burn them all
Feckless gained trite status after Canadian satirist Samantha Bee used it to label Ivanka T, a feckless c*nt. Who incidentally, graduated Wharton school at Penn. It means apathetic/indolent. Extreme is a measure. Posters using either to explain opposing views aren't exactly stretching themselves rhetorically. Evaluating moves to confront Russian aggression as, working or not, stripped of emotionally loaded popular jargon, is the responsibility of a balanced OP/contributor. Especially on a topic this real, tragic, volatile. You know, pilot stuff.
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Old 09-30-2023, 07:45 AM
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KFOR has about 4500 personnel assigned (down from a onetime peak of 50,000) versus the Serb militaries 25,000 active and 50,000 Reserve troops. The big disparity of course would be in crew served heavy equipment. The bulk of current forces are MP - type troops intended more for civilian peacekeeping than heavy fighting against tanks, artillery, etc.
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Feckless gained trite status after Canadian satirist Samantha Bee used it to label Ivanka T, a feckless c*nt. Who incidentally, graduated Wharton school at Penn. It means apathetic/indolent. Extreme is a measure. Posters using either to explain opposing views aren't exactly stretching themselves rhetorically. Evaluating moves to confront Russian aggression as, working or not, stripped of emotionally loaded popular jargon, is the responsibility of a balanced OP/contributor. Especially on a topic this real, tragic, volatile. You know, pilot stuff.
Except sometimes a word just so precisely fits that it is the only logical choice.

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[ fek-lis ]SHOW IPA


See synonyms for: fecklessfecklessnesson Thesaurus.comadjective
1. ineffective; incompetent; futile: feckless attempts to repair the plumbing.
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having no sense of responsibility; indifferent; lazy
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Except sometimes a word just so precisely fits that it is the only logical choice.
Until such time it becomes overused, trite, cliché, hackney, banal. Doesn't work as intended.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Until such time it becomes overused, trite, cliché, hackney, banal. Doesn't work as intended.
Yet the fact you don’t care for it does not change its appropriateness.
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Old 09-30-2023, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Except sometimes a word just so precisely fits that it is the only logical choice.
what precise metric are you applying when claiming the EU is not stepping up. Be very specific. 100BL required? 150?

do you even have a number or do you just whine with no context? You clearly dont understand the way this war is being fought, do you understand economics?

be specific dude, own it

What metric?
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yet the fact you don’t care for it does not change its appropriateness.
Appropriate v effective, not much of a battle.

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