Ukraine conflict
09-29-2023, 07:10 AM
#1481
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,831
We've all had our lips on the Stoli. Still do. But yeah, hanging one's hat on the R side of the circus is nothing to be proud of these days.
09-29-2023, 07:32 AM
#1482
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,115
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-russia-has-gained-the-most-ground-this-year
Some excerpts:
Despite all the bloodshed, destruction of towns and farmland and the loss of war materiel on both sides, little territory has been gained by either side this year, but Russia achieved the largest net increase in territory, according to The New York Times.
In a sobering graphics-based story, the publication reported that ultimately, "the front line, after months of grueling combat and heavy casualties, remains largely unchanged."
"Less territory changed hands in August than in any other month of the war," the newspaper said, based on its analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War. While Ukraine made small gains in the south, Russia took slightly more land overall, mostly in the northeast.
Overall, Russia has gained 331 square miles while Ukraine has gained 143 square miles compared with the start of this year. The Russian net gain of 183 square miles is smaller than either New York City or Kyiv.
In a sobering graphics-based story, the publication reported that ultimately, "the front line, after months of grueling combat and heavy casualties, remains largely unchanged."
"Less territory changed hands in August than in any other month of the war," the newspaper said, based on its analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War. While Ukraine made small gains in the south, Russia took slightly more land overall, mostly in the northeast.
Overall, Russia has gained 331 square miles while Ukraine has gained 143 square miles compared with the start of this year. The Russian net gain of 183 square miles is smaller than either New York City or Kyiv.
New York Times World
@nytimesworld
·
Follow
Kyiv and Moscow began the year with lofty ambitions in the war in Ukraine. But after months of grueling combat and heavy casualties, the front line remains largely unchanged and a breakthrough looks more difficult than ever.
nytimes.com
Who’s Gaining Ground in Ukraine? This Year, No One.
Although both sides have launched ambitious offensives, the front line has barely shifted. After 18 months of war, a breakthrough looks more difficult than ever.
6:25 AM · Sep 28, 2023
ISW
@TheStudyofWar
·
Follow
Here are today's control-of-terrain maps of #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine from @TheStudyofWar and @criticalthreats. Interactive map, updated daily: https://isw.pub/InteractiveUkraineWarMap
2:40 PM · Sep 28, 2023
@TheStudyofWar
·
Follow
Here are today's control-of-terrain maps of #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine from @TheStudyofWar and @criticalthreats. Interactive map, updated daily: https://isw.pub/InteractiveUkraineWarMap
2:40 PM · Sep 28, 2023
09-29-2023, 12:56 PM
#1483
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 1,437
09-29-2023, 12:59 PM
#1484
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 1,437
On a sidenote, and not subjective, the Russian counteroffensive in the north has stalled out, i know its hard for vlad to stomach, but nothing thus far has stopped the Ukrainian’s slow, methodical, and life saving advance in the south. Their forces are Geo located in both verbove and novipro.
09-29-2023, 02:08 PM
#1485
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,115
The fact that you are using territorial gains and not attritional gradients as your means of measuring Ukraine success means you do not understand this war. Try and keep up my pigeon. Ask yourself this…. how many soldiers and how much equipment did each side start this war with? And what is the status now according to oryx and isw?
On a sidenote, and not subjective, the Russian counteroffensive in the north has stalled out, i know its hard for vlad to stomach, but nothing thus far has stopped the Ukrainian’s slow, methodical, and life saving advance in the south. Their forces are Geo located in both verbove and novipro.
On a sidenote, and not subjective, the Russian counteroffensive in the north has stalled out, i know its hard for vlad to stomach, but nothing thus far has stopped the Ukrainian’s slow, methodical, and life saving advance in the south. Their forces are Geo located in both verbove and novipro.
09-29-2023, 04:00 PM
#1486
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: Cl65 left
Posts: 175
The fact that you are using territorial gains and not attritional gradients as your means of measuring Ukraine success means you do not understand this war. Try and keep up my pigeon. Ask yourself this…. how many soldiers and how much equipment did each side start this war with? And what is the status now according to oryx and isw?
On a sidenote, and not subjective, the Russian counteroffensive in the north has stalled out, i know its hard for vlad to stomach, but nothing thus far has stopped the Ukrainian’s slow, methodical, and life saving advance in the south. Their forces are Geo located in both verbove and novipro.
On a sidenote, and not subjective, the Russian counteroffensive in the north has stalled out, i know its hard for vlad to stomach, but nothing thus far has stopped the Ukrainian’s slow, methodical, and life saving advance in the south. Their forces are Geo located in both verbove and novipro.
09-29-2023, 05:03 PM
#1487
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,115
https://www.politico.eu/article/fran...siles-defense/
an excerpt:
French pivot
In the past week, French officials have started to hammer home a new message: France can no longersustaingiving weapons to Ukraine and will insteadplug Ukrainian officials into the country's defense industry.
09-29-2023, 05:49 PM
#1488
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 788
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/63698...nd-republicans
Rand Paul is compromised by the Russians.
https://youtu.be/BTdqIlfp8XE?si=e03uF3coBiKTZyXs
Rand Paul is compromised by the Russians.
https://youtu.be/BTdqIlfp8XE?si=e03uF3coBiKTZyXs
Paraphrasing: ' at the meetings end a top "spymaster" stated for all: American intel agencies believe that V. Putin had leverages of pressure over the soon to be inaugurated President.......he cautioned all to be careful as to any intel shared with the White House and NSA as it could be leaked to the Russians'.
In June, 2016 in informal conversation Rep. McCarthy said 'two people Putin pays are (Rep.) Rohrabacher and Trump'.
Speaker Paul Ryan immediately stated that no one should ever repeat that. After news media learned of the exchange McCarthy and Ryan both stated it was a joke.
In 2016 or 2017 Retired General Michael Flynn asked a Russian diplomat (Ambassador to US?) to hold off on retaliations as relief of sanctions was coming.
The admins. first Sec. of State (Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson) had been personally decorated with a Friend of Russia medal. Dept. of State personnel were alarmed enough by immediate efforts to lift sanctions that they informed select congressional members. Senator John Mccain and a Dem. Senator rushed a bill through that prevented the executive from unilaterally lifting Russian sanctions. In my opinion this is the main reason that President Trump had such a deep animosity towards Senator McCain. McCain prevented him from fulfilling his first promise to Putin.
The list goes on and on, just from public record, but you get the idea.
There is nothing wrong with having good relations with a foreign country, nor good personal relations with its leaders. There is something wrong when that country displays overt hostility to the welfare of your country, and you put the wishes of that country's leaders ahead of your own country.
I posted earlier 3 levels of capture by a foreign intelligence agency's active measures.
1.Useful idiots. They number in the millions and are given magnified effectiveness by the internet and social media. This is an entirely new paradigm that, to my knowledge, no one has figured out how to counter in a free society. They give the unwitting and witting assets the political power required to be effective.
2.Unwitting assets. To be an asset one must have outsized influence. Such as would be possessed by an elected member of congress. If in that position, and convinced by hostile and manipulative influences, one can become an unknowing instrument of that foreign govt.
3.Witting assets. Usually directly compromised. Obviously aware of ones actions, but does some sort of rationalizing of behavior, often of 'the end justifies the means' variety. Or the person could just be an empty, soulless person with no core values whose vanity could be played upon to any end.
I don't know where Sen Paul falls in this, but his actions go so far back that they give circumstantial evidence to being compromised, and hence aware.
09-29-2023, 08:00 PM
#1489
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,115
In a Jan. 2017 meeting at Langley between US and Israeli intelligence:
Paraphrasing: ' at the meetings end a top "spymaster" stated for all: American intel agencies believe that V. Putin had leverages of pressure over the soon to be inaugurated President.......he cautioned all to be careful as to any intel shared with the White House and NSA as it could be leaked to the Russians'.
In June, 2016 in informal conversation Rep. McCarthy said 'two people Putin pays are (Rep.) Rohrabacher and Trump'.
Speaker Paul Ryan immediately stated that no one should ever repeat that. After news media learned of the exchange McCarthy and Ryan both stated it was a joke.
In 2016 or 2017 Retired General Michael Flynn asked a Russian diplomat (Ambassador to US?) to hold off on retaliations as relief of sanctions was coming.
The admins. first Sec. of State (Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson) had been personally decorated with a Friend of Russia medal. Dept. of State personnel were alarmed enough by immediate efforts to lift sanctions that they informed select congressional members. Senator John Mccain and a Dem. Senator rushed a bill through that prevented the executive from unilaterally lifting Russian sanctions. In my opinion this is the main reason that President Trump had such a deep animosity towards Senator McCain. McCain prevented him from fulfilling his first promise to Putin.
The list goes on and on, just from public record, but you get the idea.
There is nothing wrong with having good relations with a foreign country, nor good personal relations with its leaders. There is something wrong when that country displays overt hostility to the welfare of your country, and you put the wishes of that country's leaders ahead of your own country.
I posted earlier 3 levels of capture by a foreign intelligence agency's active measures.
1.Useful idiots. They number in the millions and are given magnified effectiveness by the internet and social media. This is an entirely new paradigm that, to my knowledge, no one has figured out how to counter in a free society. They give the unwitting and witting assets the political power required to be effective.
2.Unwitting assets. To be an asset one must have outsized influence. Such as would be possessed by an elected member of congress. If in that position, and convinced by hostile and manipulative influences, one can become an unknowing instrument of that foreign govt.
3.Witting assets. Usually directly compromised. Obviously aware of ones actions, but does some sort of rationalizing of behavior, often of 'the end justifies the means' variety. Or the person could just be an empty, soulless person with no core values whose vanity could be played upon to any end.
I don't know where Sen Paul falls in this, but his actions go so far back that they give circumstantial evidence to being compromised, and hence aware.
Paraphrasing: ' at the meetings end a top "spymaster" stated for all: American intel agencies believe that V. Putin had leverages of pressure over the soon to be inaugurated President.......he cautioned all to be careful as to any intel shared with the White House and NSA as it could be leaked to the Russians'.
In June, 2016 in informal conversation Rep. McCarthy said 'two people Putin pays are (Rep.) Rohrabacher and Trump'.
Speaker Paul Ryan immediately stated that no one should ever repeat that. After news media learned of the exchange McCarthy and Ryan both stated it was a joke.
In 2016 or 2017 Retired General Michael Flynn asked a Russian diplomat (Ambassador to US?) to hold off on retaliations as relief of sanctions was coming.
The admins. first Sec. of State (Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson) had been personally decorated with a Friend of Russia medal. Dept. of State personnel were alarmed enough by immediate efforts to lift sanctions that they informed select congressional members. Senator John Mccain and a Dem. Senator rushed a bill through that prevented the executive from unilaterally lifting Russian sanctions. In my opinion this is the main reason that President Trump had such a deep animosity towards Senator McCain. McCain prevented him from fulfilling his first promise to Putin.
The list goes on and on, just from public record, but you get the idea.
There is nothing wrong with having good relations with a foreign country, nor good personal relations with its leaders. There is something wrong when that country displays overt hostility to the welfare of your country, and you put the wishes of that country's leaders ahead of your own country.
I posted earlier 3 levels of capture by a foreign intelligence agency's active measures.
1.Useful idiots. They number in the millions and are given magnified effectiveness by the internet and social media. This is an entirely new paradigm that, to my knowledge, no one has figured out how to counter in a free society. They give the unwitting and witting assets the political power required to be effective.
2.Unwitting assets. To be an asset one must have outsized influence. Such as would be possessed by an elected member of congress. If in that position, and convinced by hostile and manipulative influences, one can become an unknowing instrument of that foreign govt.
3.Witting assets. Usually directly compromised. Obviously aware of ones actions, but does some sort of rationalizing of behavior, often of 'the end justifies the means' variety. Or the person could just be an empty, soulless person with no core values whose vanity could be played upon to any end.
I don't know where Sen Paul falls in this, but his actions go so far back that they give circumstantial evidence to being compromised, and hence aware.
09-29-2023, 08:01 PM
#1490
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,831
I posted earlier 3 levels of capture by a foreign intelligence agency's active measures.
1.Useful idiots. They number in the millions and are given magnified effectiveness by the internet and social media. This is an entirely new paradigm that, to my knowledge, no one has figured out how to counter in a free society. They give the unwitting and witting assets the political power required to be effective.
2.Unwitting assets. To be an asset one must have outsized influence. Such as would be possessed by an elected member of congress. If in that position, and convinced by hostile and manipulative influences, one can become an unknowing instrument of that foreign govt.
3.Witting assets. Usually directly compromised. Obviously aware of ones actions, but does some sort of rationalizing of behavior, often of 'the end justifies the means' variety. Or the person could just be an empty, soulless person with no core values whose vanity could be played upon to any end.
I don't know where Sen Paul falls in this, but his actions go so far back that they give circumstantial evidence to being compromised, and hence aware.
1.Useful idiots. They number in the millions and are given magnified effectiveness by the internet and social media. This is an entirely new paradigm that, to my knowledge, no one has figured out how to counter in a free society. They give the unwitting and witting assets the political power required to be effective.
2.Unwitting assets. To be an asset one must have outsized influence. Such as would be possessed by an elected member of congress. If in that position, and convinced by hostile and manipulative influences, one can become an unknowing instrument of that foreign govt.
3.Witting assets. Usually directly compromised. Obviously aware of ones actions, but does some sort of rationalizing of behavior, often of 'the end justifies the means' variety. Or the person could just be an empty, soulless person with no core values whose vanity could be played upon to any end.
I don't know where Sen Paul falls in this, but his actions go so far back that they give circumstantial evidence to being compromised, and hence aware.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
