Ukraine conflict
09-08-2023, 12:19 PM
#1291
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they invaded Ukraine
i repeat, they invaded Ukraine. The war can stop anytime russia wants by leaving Ukraine’s internationally recognized borders. Hell, I bet they could leave everything except crimea and that would stop the war as well.
you blithely offering up the Ukrainian people on the altar of fear is a loss of composure imo, but thats just me
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09-08-2023, 12:39 PM
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Morally? What if he simply chooses to not desire to assist the Ukrainians in providing them a capability his own government clearly didn’t want them to have? But your analogy is flawed as well. He apparently shut them down BEFORE the advance, simply keeping the status quo with no loss of life on either side.
09-08-2023, 12:43 PM
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dude, you were talking about klingons……..
if saying “i dont know what this means” indicates a loss of composure to you….. I think that says more about you than about me
as soon as Russia gets back into their internationally recognized borders, I don’t care what they do.
Its about precedent…..again if that doesn’t do it for you, nothing will. History is filled with countless examples of the failed policy of appeasement.
if the english had continued the failed policy of appeasement, we would all be speaking Danish right now for one.
if saying “i dont know what this means” indicates a loss of composure to you….. I think that says more about you than about me
as soon as Russia gets back into their internationally recognized borders, I don’t care what they do.
Its about precedent…..again if that doesn’t do it for you, nothing will. History is filled with countless examples of the failed policy of appeasement.
if the english had continued the failed policy of appeasement, we would all be speaking Danish right now for one.
So you heard of Starship Enterprise, good. Ran a long time in reruns then even bigger success with new crews decades later. Why? The future demands confrontation with bigger & more capable threats. Always. None of which is possible without equipping Starfleet the necessary tools. If you’d paid any attention to some of the acknowledged logistics & recruiting gaps in US readiness presented just in this thread, that might help drafting stronger, more credible pro-status quo arguments.
2nd language. Any?
09-08-2023, 02:37 PM
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Or Welch, or Scottish,or Breton, or Irish, or Gaelic, or Cornish, or Manx,
Without the threat of the Norsemen the United Kingdom might well have never United.
https://thevikingherald.com/article/...r-heard-of/493
Without the threat of the Norsemen the United Kingdom might well have never United.
https://thevikingherald.com/article/...r-heard-of/493
09-08-2023, 04:28 PM
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This becomes subjective, but if true, he should be held accountable. Particularly if he closed the link mid operation. At least give a time of shutdown so they would know not to utilize this asset.
”Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.George Orwell
”Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.George Orwell
Illustrates the moral conundrum faced by any who wish to live by the principles of pacifism. I have wrestled with it most of my adult life. What to do when faced with the prospect of an enemy intent on annihilation/genocide? What to do when an observer-just stand aside and say the murders don't concern me? Maybe film it on your smart phone to show at the next CPAC?
Does one lament those lined up alongside the pits? Or instead feel bad for all the stress those poor shooters must suffer through. Maybe best to just pretend it really didn't happen and find solace with Tucker and Friends.
Sorry for the rant. Maybe finish my krupnik.
09-08-2023, 04:32 PM
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Legally in a civic sense it depends on the contract he signed with them and them with him, as Rickair already mentioned. If he violated a contact he coukd be found liable in civil court. But “evil”?
Morally? What if he simply chooses to not desire to assist the Ukrainians in providing them a capability his own government clearly didn’t want them to have? But your analogy is flawed as well. He apparently shut them down BEFORE the advance, simply keeping the status quo with no loss of life on either side.
Morally? What if he simply chooses to not desire to assist the Ukrainians in providing them a capability his own government clearly didn’t want them to have? But your analogy is flawed as well. He apparently shut them down BEFORE the advance, simply keeping the status quo with no loss of life on either side.
09-08-2023, 06:47 PM
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Tucker bad, Fox, that’s the hurdle. Where have we heard that before? Why didn’t we see it? Hungary ‘56. Cuba ‘62. Czech spring ‘68. SE Asia ‘73. Syria, Iran, N Korea. We get it. Head shot ain’t going to solve the problem. Trust the past, plan without illusion. The battle for spreading preamble goals across the universe is only as good as those who have the $$$ to wage a fight that never ends. ‘Show me the money’ Start there.
09-08-2023, 07:48 PM
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09-08-2023, 07:52 PM
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And you a hammer & sickle. Be specific, play your hand. https://youtu.be/PNbBDrceCy8?si=Y2yrVjPVPjJQFksH
Now I'm a pinko commie? Get your stories straight. Wait, I think that's the point with you. It's not straight and never will be.
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