Excargodog

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ne/ar-AA1g8upQ

An excerpt:

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Excargodog

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-russia-ukraine-war-gergely-gulyas-security-guarantees-peace/

Hubcapped

are you really pushing this message? Wtf lol….what a russian troll.

Excargodog

There you go again with the ad hominem attacks. I am posting an article describing the political movements of HUNGARY, not just an EU member but a NATO member that shares a border with the Ukraine. If you do not believe the politics of Hungary will have an effect on support for Ukraine you need to get educated. Right now EU support for the Ukraine is being held up by Hungary over a dispute involving a Hungarian bank because funding from the EU from that fund has to be unanimous.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/31/7417927/

They also have been blocking Ukraine NATO membership since 2018.

https://washington.mfa.gov.hu/eng/ne...nato-accession

https://www.euractiv.com/section/glo...o-cooperation/

Since even one NATO nation can block additions to NATO membership if you truly give a damn about the Ukraine you damn well OUGHT to be aware of the intercoalition politics that will affect that, not disparage the people that simply report the way the political winds are blowing.

People who attack the messenger eventually get surprised a lot, Grow up.

Hubcapped

all you did was post an article pushing orbans message. You provided no insight, no context, no opinion. It was just lead with “yet another opinion”. Bet you loved his interview with your traitor boy tucker.

Hows verbove doing? Since you russbots seem to be working overtime, are you scared your going to get called up?

have a pepsi

Excargodog

Did you even READ the article? Or just the excerpt? This is the position of HUNGARY, the Ukraine’s NEIGHBOR and an EU member. Someone who can and HAS vetoed EU aid to Ukraine and can and has vetoed consideration of NATO membership to Ukraine.

You may not believe such things are important. Fine, that’s on you. You are entitled to your opinion. More knowledgeable people know better.

Excargodog

Ukrainian forces at the front line near the village of Robotyne, Ukraine. PHOTO: VIACHESLAV RATYNSKYI/REUTERSKYIV, Ukraine—Ukrainian troops are battling to break through Russian fortifications in their country’s south, but even successfully piercing the line will only mark a start. For a shot at real gains, Kyiv’s forces would need to turn a breakthrough into a breakout.

Since June, Ukrainian soldiers have been struggling to cross the minefields, trenches and lines of obstacles that Russian troops spent months emplacing. In recent weeks, Ukrainian units have made progress penetrating what Russia refers to as its forward security zone at the town of Robotyne and advancing toward the heavily fortified nearby settlement Verbove.

Ukraine’s push southward

Russian-controlled area

Russian fortifications

UKRAINE

Area of detail

Zaporizhzhia

Orikhiv

Robotyne

Verbove

Tokmak

Melitopol

10 miles

10 km

Sea of Azov

Note: Russian-controlled area as of Sept. 3
Sources: Brady Africk, American Enterprise Institute (Russian fortifications); Institute for the Study of War and AEI’s Critical Threats Project (Russian-controlled area)
Andrew Barnett/THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

The progress has brought hopeful comments from U.S. and European officials, some of who previously had criticized Kyiv for not pushing aggressively enough. But even Ukraine’s boosters remain sober about the task ahead for its troops.

Russia not only built formidable defenses—its forces continue to reinforce them. Moscow has also moved more troops into the region, Ukrainian officials and open-source intelligence analysts say.

Ukrainian forces, operating in small units that seek to evade detection by Russian surveillance, are now working to slice through Russian lines and open paths for comrades with heavier equipment to follow. Kyiv’s spearhead troops want to create what military strategists call a salient, a bulge protruding into Russia’s rear defenses.

If Ukraine can accomplish the hugely difficult task of breaking through Russian lines, they would need to hold and expand any gap so that armored mechanized forces can flood through and attempt to overrun Russian lines. Moscow’s troops are fighting to stop that.

“A breakthrough may get units through the defensive lines, but there is much more fighting before a breakout is achieved,” said Mark Kimmitt, a retired Army brigadier general. “Most times this fails if the enemy is marginally competent and has the units and logistics to support counterattacks against the salient,” he said.

Russian forces have launched localized counterattacks to impede Ukrainian gains outside Robotyne, said a platoon commander with Ukraine’s 47th Brigade who is operating on the town’s eastern outskirts. Russian forces fiercely defended the heavily mined road from Robotyne to Verbove, he said of the recent advance.

“It was really hard,” he said. “Everything was exploding.”

Ukrainian soldiers fire small multiple-launch rocket systems near a front line in Zaporizhzhia region, Ukraine. PHOTO: VIACHESLAV RATYNSKYI/REUTERSIf Ukrainian troops manage to take or bypass Verbove, they are likely to push south toward the country’s Black Sea coast, more than 50 miles away. Their goal is to cut through a corridor that Moscow controls, a “land bridge” running from Ukraine’s border with Russia in the east to the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

If Ukrainian troops can pierce Russia’s next lines, their path south will likely depend on a mix of terrain and Russian defenses, analysts and combat veterans say. Russia has created impediments that seek to force Ukrainian troops into areas where Russians can more easily attack them, known as kill zones.

In all corners of the sprawling battlefield, Moscow has hidden traps and troops that blur the front line and make it hard for Kyiv’s fighters to grasp what lies ahead.

“Every tree line is fortified with trenches,” said Oleksandr Solonko, a private in an air-reconnaissance battalion who is operating drones near Robotyne. “Behind every bush is an enemy position.”


Russia is also building up forces in the largest local town, Tokmak, a rail and road hub that Moscow has surrounded with defenses.“Every day more troops are coming to Tokmak and other front-line cities,” said Ivan Fedorov, the exiled Ukrainian mayor of Melitopol, a nearby city that Moscow’s troops have held since the early days of the war. “Tokmak is like a military base of Russians.”

Fedorov, who speaks to Ukrainians in areas under Russian control, said Ukrainian forces hit Tokmak daily with artillery and rockets. Last week, he said, Ukrainian troops struck a military warehouse in the city, setting off explosions that lasted for hours.

Since Tokmak is so heavily fortified, some analysts believe Ukrainian forces would bypass it and look for weaknesses elsewhere. If they can punch through, they will need to “hold the shoulders” of a breakthrough, said Kimmitt, the retired general, so they can rush combat forces and logistical troops into the gap, and then seek to widen it.

“Once the shoulders are held and there is no substantial enemy in front, then your forces can achieve the momentum for a breakout,” Kimmitt said.

Hubcapped

lets remember that this gentleman, who feels compelled to constantly spout his right wing clickbait fear porn, didnt even know why robo was important.

Trolls are gonna troll, beware the russian bots, they are dangerous

Excargodog

Beware those who would censor the opinions of others. They are the ones who seek to deceive. That’s why we have a first amendment. Clearly, others are as entitled to their opinions as anyone else, but their opinions should compete with those of others in the marketplace of ideas. I realize Hubcapped is a Ukrainian fanboy and truthfully, I have a lot of admiration for the Ukrainians too, but what either of us WISH to be the outcome does not trump reality or change either the facts on the ground or the European politics or the decades of NATO partner underinvestment that brought us to this point. And Hubcapped’s partisanship damn sure doesn’t trump the first amendment.

Excargodog

https://theaviationist.com/2023/09/04/su-34-kinzhal/


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...or-first-time/