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08-01-2022, 04:19 PM
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Only partially correct.
A democracy means the minority has zero rights, or only the rights the majority decides they have. A republic respects the primacy of the individual (as you alluded to) and the minority has natural rights inherit in their humanity whether the majority decides they do or not.
A democracy means the minority has zero rights, or only the rights the majority decides they have. A republic respects the primacy of the individual (as you alluded to) and the minority has natural rights inherit in their humanity whether the majority decides they do or not.
08-01-2022, 04:55 PM
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You must've failed reading comprehension. Were you educated in a government school? Go back to my previous post and re-read it, this time slowly. Maybe you'll comprehend it a second or 3rd time.
08-02-2022, 07:48 AM
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08-02-2022, 08:00 AM
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Good points, Rick, but as we saw after the 2020 election, even with in person paper voting, an absurdly large minority of the country will still think the election was fraudulent or "stolen" if their chosen candidate loses. The seal has been broken on that in our society, and I don't know how we come back from it. I voted for Trump and I'm not ashamed of it, but I can also admit that he lost fair and square. The tin foil hat crowd will just continue to come up with asinine explanations how ballots were moved in the middle of the night or whatever and Trump actually won. It's truly frightening how many people believe that. Last poll I saw was 30-40% of the country IIRC.
I agree that the internet is always ripe for hacking, especially from players like China, Russia, and N. Korea, and online votes are harder to track, but I'm thinking some sort of authenticated SSL system like the IRS uses would work. Frankly, I think paper is easier to manipulate, especially mailed or dropped paper.
Yes, ID needs to be shown to vote. In person, that's easy. Mail in should require a notary and a copy of one's ID. "Signature matching" is voodoo science. It kicks out legitimate votes, and lets in fraudulent votes. We also need a way to keep illegal immigrants from voting, especially in states like IL and CA that give them drivers licenses and welfare benefits and treat them like those here legally.
I agree that the internet is always ripe for hacking, especially from players like China, Russia, and N. Korea, and online votes are harder to track, but I'm thinking some sort of authenticated SSL system like the IRS uses would work. Frankly, I think paper is easier to manipulate, especially mailed or dropped paper.
Yes, ID needs to be shown to vote. In person, that's easy. Mail in should require a notary and a copy of one's ID. "Signature matching" is voodoo science. It kicks out legitimate votes, and lets in fraudulent votes. We also need a way to keep illegal immigrants from voting, especially in states like IL and CA that give them drivers licenses and welfare benefits and treat them like those here legally.
Daniel Ziblatt
08-02-2022, 07:32 PM
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Winged,
Fraud (at least currently) is NOT the problem.
It is the false accusations of fraud that are undermining the legitimacy of Democracy.
Every scenario of fraud has been examined. All have been shown to be without basis.
Every single person who continues to perpetuate social media/internet BS that there was, and is, some sort of widespread voter fraud is actively involved in undermining the basic governance structure of The United States as well as contributing to the weakening of the structure of Western society.
This is not some sort of 'look at me, what an edgy radical I am' schtick, or some sort of effing game. Serious harm has been done to the foundations of this country by immature, ill-informed nitwits.
Fraud (at least currently) is NOT the problem.
It is the false accusations of fraud that are undermining the legitimacy of Democracy.
Every scenario of fraud has been examined. All have been shown to be without basis.
Every single person who continues to perpetuate social media/internet BS that there was, and is, some sort of widespread voter fraud is actively involved in undermining the basic governance structure of The United States as well as contributing to the weakening of the structure of Western society.
This is not some sort of 'look at me, what an edgy radical I am' schtick, or some sort of effing game. Serious harm has been done to the foundations of this country by immature, ill-informed nitwits.
08-03-2022, 06:23 PM
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Actual video footage of ballot harvesting and ballot drop box dumping by the hundreds per person in 2020: You’re a conspiracy theorist and a threat to democracy!!
Seems to be a common theme in all topics for the last 2.5 years.
08-04-2022, 07:00 AM
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The election was stolen from Hillary in 2016: let’s talk about it for 4 years even though there’s exactly 0 evidence.
Actual video footage of ballot harvesting and ballot drop box dumping by the hundreds per person in 2020: You’re a conspiracy theorist and a threat to democracy!!
Seems to be a common theme in all topics for the last 2.5 years.
Actual video footage of ballot harvesting and ballot drop box dumping by the hundreds per person in 2020: You’re a conspiracy theorist and a threat to democracy!!
Seems to be a common theme in all topics for the last 2.5 years.
08-06-2022, 08:02 PM
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The election was stolen from Hillary in 2016: let’s talk about it for 4 years even though there’s exactly 0 evidence.
Actual video footage of ballot harvesting and ballot drop box dumping by the hundreds per person in 2020: You’re a conspiracy theorist and a threat to democracy!!
Seems to be a common theme in all topics for the last 2.5 years.
Actual video footage of ballot harvesting and ballot drop box dumping by the hundreds per person in 2020: You’re a conspiracy theorist and a threat to democracy!!
Seems to be a common theme in all topics for the last 2.5 years.
Your leader, Alex Jones would like a word with you.
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