keiundraj

Ok I'll delete the post but I can't delete the quotes!!! Although i've read PLENTY of post of Pilots with Their Positions stating XXXX Captain and XXXX FO talking about how much they drink and all that so what kind of Image does that portray? Not being defensive just wondering am I being singled out because I'm not one of the "Regulars"

flynavyj

because talking about what you do on your time, and what you do before you go fly are two totally different things.

de727ups

"I probably could fly circles around you at my 107hrs!!!!"

"I've never said I was God's gift to Aviation"

Ummmm....you joined this board and in short order have several of the most respected users calling you out. Then you say it's just your nature and should be expected. You go to ATP as well.

I'm not sure how that all fits together but, personally, I'm not at all impressed. You need to learn when to ****. If you have 107 hours at ATP and come here talkin' like this to the high seniority APCer's....well....I'll just say I think you're way out of line and have a lot to learn.

Slice

You said you're here to learn. Just trying to help you out.

dojetdriver

Good point, but sadly there was A LOT more to it than that. I think we will have to see how ExpressJet's endevor in using RJ's works out before passing a final judgement.

But yes, RJ's (especially 50 seat variety) are very expensive if not managed correctly as far as routes and pricing.

SaltyDog

K,
It is managements fault. By default, they are the 'managers' of the business are they not?
Simple concept really. They choose what equipment, business plan, etc and negotiate a working relationship with the rest of the employees. How is it not their fault? Most high level managers move around and look for short term stock price gains that often imperil the company. History is rife with these examples. Do some research. It is good for all of us in this profession.

Hourly employees typically stay with the company for years to even last a career. Managers at the upper level typically average just years, they create market deals to enrich the stock price, often artificially, collect millions, bankrupt the company, paint the airplanes a new color and go get a new job at another airline and ruin it too. Precious few are sharp like a Herb Kelleher.
Managements job is to lower costs. One way to do this is not pay you anything. Of course, you want something to pay the bills and make a decent living. Therein lies the conflict. They want your services free and you want something more.
Scope was one fence to maintain something more.
BTW, the DC-9 is expensive, but don't kid yourself, when other companies were investing in new capital equipment in the 90's when the boom years were around of extraordinary profits, Northwest management chose to go cheap and boost the stock price and there own riches instead of investing the profits in the future of the business, (at the time gas was cheap, so they did not care, it was even a story in the Wall Street Journal). Now those managers are gone and leave the wreckage to the next group of managers and always to the dedicated employees. The employees can't change that fact.
Isn't it interesting that RJ's are getting bigger? So Scope was smart to protect the pay of the crews on that size equipment. The airlines can get that equipmemt and negotiate a wage, but they choose not to do this. Another management fault.
Read Gordon Bethune's view of Regionals, He shed Expressjet because he wanted your services for free and wanted the regionals to compete for the business in the feeder routes that they wanted to feed the hubs.