cubflyer

OK. The fact that you are learning about scope is great. Good luck in the real world....and I mean that. Try to learn as much as you can from the perspective of those of us who are out there day in and day out (night in and night out).

pete2800

Heh, heh. Why?

-Ben

blastoff

Um what? It doesn't prevent their pilots from flying them...but if a mainline pilots company doesn't fly RJ's, of course he won't fly RJ's.

keiundraj

The problem is that Scope Clauses stand in the way of a carrier's choosing the right-size aircraft for a Specific marketplace. After doing research in their own market Let's say an airline was taking a 737 into a given market. After realizing that this route is profitable but would be more profitable if it was being flown by a 70seat aircraft. Now they have to pay another airline to operate this flight for them because it'll make more money for them to do it this route, as opposed to continuing to send the 73 there, they have no Choice. They're having to pay for a profitable route to be operated by another carrier. Not only is it hurting the Major but also the Regional's Pilots

keiundraj

Look Guys I'm not being arrogant and saying I'm smarter than any of you all, honestly I'm just trying to learn something. The suggestion that RJ are not profitable isn't reasonable. If they weren't profitable they there wouldn't be so many RJs flyin.
Express Jet just started their Own branded flying I guess how this turns out will prove weather RJ can be profitable without being Contracted by the Majors

md11phlyer

Wow.

So using your oversimplified example, why doesn't the mainline just purchase and fly their own 70-seaters, eliminating the middle man?

(Please get it.)

TonyC

I'm a bit puzzled why you're being so coy about your credentials. In your very first post on APC you announced that you are a product of Delta State University, where you received a B.S. in Aviation Management. (You had to change majors from Flight Operations due to to money -- perhaps you missed some critical areas in the switch.)

Your lack of knowledge of the aviation industry, the history of the airline industry, commuters, feeders, and regionals, and your communications skills all cast a shadow on the value of the education you received. You've got a lot to learn, and it's not going to be easy with the attitude you have here. Your first post ended with, "GET A GRIP. It's going to take me 150days to go from PPL-CFI CFII MEI. If I can do that Hats off to me, but don't be mad because it took you 4yrs." There are better ways to win friends and influence people.



Coy about credentials . . . maybe I do know. According to the Delta State website, they don't offer a Bachelor of Science in Aviation Mangement. Their College of Business has a Commercial Aviation department. They offer a Bachelor of Commercial Aviation degree. From their website, "Upon graduation, Flight Operations Majors hold at least a Commercial Pilot Certificate with Airplane Single and Multi-engine land and Instrument-Airplane ratings, along with a Flight Instructor Certificate." That sounds like what you're planning to get at ATP. I'm confused why you'd ditch that opportunity to go pay money for the same thing at ATP?

Oh, well. You're the bright one, not us.

You have a B.S.? BS!





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keiundraj

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING!!!!!!

The Pilot Group contracts Says they WON'T fly them... It's a CONTRACT!

md11phlyer

What scope clause says that? Please tell me.

Slice

Do a search on Independence Air. You will learn a lot about RJ's and profitability(or lack there of).