Changing the Beard Rule
02-14-2023, 07:32 PM
#462
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I'm OK with beards.
I'm not OK with spending even $0.05/hour negotiating capital to get beard approval. If the company wants to authorize beards out of the goodness of their hearts, or to attract/retain millennial pilots, great I'm all for it. I might even grow one myself. But I'm not giving up any $.
I'm not OK with spending even $0.05/hour negotiating capital to get beard approval. If the company wants to authorize beards out of the goodness of their hearts, or to attract/retain millennial pilots, great I'm all for it. I might even grow one myself. But I'm not giving up any $.
02-20-2023, 07:51 AM
#463
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I'm OK with beards.
I'm not OK with spending even $0.05/hour negotiating capital to get beard approval. If the company wants to authorize beards out of the goodness of their hearts, or to attract/retain millennial pilots, great I'm all for it. I might even grow one myself. But I'm not giving up any $.
I'm not OK with spending even $0.05/hour negotiating capital to get beard approval. If the company wants to authorize beards out of the goodness of their hearts, or to attract/retain millennial pilots, great I'm all for it. I might even grow one myself. But I'm not giving up any $.
02-20-2023, 05:18 PM
#464
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Instead of looking out for what you consider important, maybe consider that not everyone cares about the same stuff as you.
For me personally, being able to have a trimmed beard would be one of the biggest QOL improvements. I hate shaving, I grow a lot of facial (quickly), and I get ingrown hairs often. And the amount of time I spend trimming and shaving adds up to a significant amount
02-20-2023, 05:36 PM
#466
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If you're looking for free beards, that's not up to pilots, it's up to management. Take it up with them (people have at my airline).
02-20-2023, 05:46 PM
#467
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And other people, in fact most of them, want more money and scheduling improvements before they want someone else to grow a beard. If it's going to cost the pilot group it's going to be about 85% opposed.
If you're looking for free beards, that's not up to pilots, it's up to management. Take it up with them (people have at my airline).
If you're looking for free beards, that's not up to pilots, it's up to management. Take it up with them (people have at my airline).
Sure, but when people write something off as “this is a waste and therefore it doesn’t deserve any attention,” that’s the exact opposite of the type of person I’d want in a union. I don’t care if someone else wants something entirely different than myself, everyone deserves representation
02-21-2023, 07:31 AM
#468
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Sure, but when people write something off as “this is a waste and therefore it doesn’t deserve any attention,” that’s the exact opposite of the type of person I’d want in a union. I don’t care if someone else wants something entirely different than myself, everyone deserves representation
02-21-2023, 09:25 AM
#469
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Anyway, what’s the attraction to looking like a member of a ZZ Top tribute band or a Civil War general? What a beard, there’s lots of non-airline operators hiring and don’t care, mostly. I’ve visited a corporate operator whose pilots were required to wear jeans, t-shirts and flip-flops. Paid well, if you like that kind of thing.
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