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Old 08-29-2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bernouli
The truth....the truth is GoJet is growing and allowing for pilot movement. Attrition and recent growth has allowed for seniority to be gained in a short amount of time. New FOs, at this point, are off of reserve in a matter of months. Pilots routinely work half of the month if not less.

More truths....negotiations have just opened. The fact that our current contract leaves so much to be desired would be cause for multiple improvements. G7 employs 500 pilots and that number continues to grow. We've even heard talks of a bridge program with UAL.
What you fail to realize is that the ONLY reason you are growing is because you are the CHEAPEST airline in the industry. There is no other reason. Your "growth" is at the expense of airlines who had descent contracts and yours happens to undercut them severely. I'm sure you've seen what pinnacle mgmt wants in their 1113 so they can compete with you. Its absolutely disgusting. Which means that you guys are so beyond cheap its historical. I honestly hope you guys at least get up to industry average so you can take a seat next to all of us on the DCI train to nowhere. How can you feel good about negotiations when the man you're negotiating with formed your airline because of FAILED negotiations. Move quickly? Give me a break.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:26 PM
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Just think of how much money Hulie put in his pocket while TSA was in negotiations (enough to buy CZ?)
I seriously doubt he will be in any rush to get you guys a "new & improved" contract.
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Bridge program with UAL? You don't really believe that do you?
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:38 PM
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You'll have your contract..... In about 5 years
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MunkyButtr
You do realize that your airline was created because of this exact set of circumstances. The only way it moves quickly is if you vote in another crap contract. I'm sorry, but hearing gojetsss and negotiations is just extremely ironic when your sole existance is based off of a contract hulas didn't want to pay for....
EXACTLY what I was thinking...

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Bridge program with UAL? You don't really believe that do you?
I'm sure he's serious.

I'm not even totally sure he understands why Gojetsssss (5 count'em) exists. The whole idea that negotiations will go quickly and they will be paid more simply proves it.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
Bridge program with UAL? You don't really believe that do you?
They probably do, and probably will sign a contract with the flimsiest flow-through language ever. But hey, "I'm in the pool at UAL!"
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bernouli
The truth....the truth is GoJet is growing and allowing for pilot movement. Attrition and recent growth has allowed for seniority to be gained in a short amount of time. New FOs, at this point, are off of reserve in a matter of months. Pilots routinely work half of the month if not less.

G7 employs 500 pilots and that number continues to grow.
Tumors grow too. A rapid, undesirable growth due to a system working against itself. Sounds similar to your situation. I'm glad it makes you happy though. You must get stoked when you see those ExtenZe commercials. Grooowwwthh....... [Salivating and Drooling]
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:51 PM
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This is hilarious. Gojetsssss and an improved contract. "fool me once..." ask the TSA guys.. You guys play hard ball, well you get what you deserve when another airline is started up that's cheaper, by your own parent company. What comes around goes around, as they say.. And there is a LOT to go around for you guys.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bernouli
We've even heard talks of a bridge program with UAL.
I will bet you a months salary-
You will NEVER have a "bridge" program at UAL.
Keep dreaming.

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Old 08-29-2012, 06:54 PM
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YOU can not have your cake and eat it too......your going to learn a really hard lesson that is LONG over due.
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