Originally Posted by goaround2000

I love it when guys say that regionals are stepping stones, heck I even agree with the statement. The truth is that it no longer just takes 2-4 years then over to a major or whatever fantasy. Somehow we have guys that think that once you hit 1000 PIC that the majors and everyone else for that matter will start banging on your door! A very naive mentality when you consider the fact that any airline right now is in a position to cherry pick. With the upcoming reduction in flying at the regionals there will be plenty of skipers with thousands of PIC time and better resumes. So the likelihood of working at a regional 5-7 years before moving on is starting to become more of a reality.

In this kind of environment you need a good contract, and good work rules. Companies such as Air Wisconsin and Legacy ExpressJet have pay rates higher than gojets on much smaller equipment. This is an embarrassment to the industry. The fact is gojets exist today because of it's subpar contract, and the type of people that work there. They wanted an airline that would pay the least with the worst contract, and the pilots that would accept the conditions knowing that they were and still are circumventing a collective bargaining agreement. The fact that we are still talking about it 7 years later should be an indication of where the moral compass is pointing.

Always amazes me how people try to justify working at an alter-ego!

Originally Posted by atooraya

There's two scenario's that can occur. 95% chance, Chief Pilot and hiring board see GoJet, and see the time frame you worked there, and not give two hoots. 5% chance, someone on the hiring board dislikes GoJet, and that will affect their view. I've been very lucky in my career so far, but I'd like to not push my luck, and I'll try to avoid that 5% chance, and try to stay at a regional that has at least a good reputation.

Originally Posted by bernouli

the contract leaves a lot to be desired.

that current contract expires in December I believe. There are many improvements to be made, and I'm confident that we will get some of them. If anybody ever thinks that a GJ contact is going to look like Delta's, they're sadly mistaken. Having said that, if that is what you are looking for the regionals aren't for you in the first place.

Originally Posted by AviHaters

Why would anyone think that a regional that was created to be cheaper than the cba of a current regional, become anything like a legacy contract? Are you seriously that stupid?

I can tell you right now what you will get... First you will get an offer giving a basic raise based on inflation.. You will turn it down(hopefully). They will come back with a "final offer". This will be TSA rates -1. You will accept that because they will say if not, flying will go to TSA. This will come into affect 3 years after your current contract ends.

To sum it up... You will always be TSA -1, on a CBA 4 years old.

Originally Posted by bernouli

Yes. I suppose I am.

When do you upgrade?

Originally Posted by bernouli

Yes. I suppose I am.

When do you upgrade?

Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer

This is the reason why no one likes GoJetssss. Because their pilots say stupid things like this, gloating that they are so cheap their upgrade is quick.

Originally Posted by XJT Pilot

here's an ingenious way to solve the Go Jets problem. How about ALPA carriers only hiring ALPA Pilots like in a real union. GoJet problem solved, who would have thought of it?

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590

So screw all those pesky RAH and SKW guys eh?

Originally Posted by AviHaters

Whats your point? Are you proud to be working for the worst regional out there?