IBPilot

That comparison is totally whack. Pinnacle pilots had it forced upon them, Go Jet pilots knew what they were getting into. Sure I'm gonna quit an 80K a year job to start over as an FO out of principle.....I'm not a vocal anti-Gojets, but staying at a regional who shafted you is totally different than going to one who in some people's eyes is undercutting the industry and was definitely formed under questionable circumstances. Pinnacle/express I was not formed to get around scope and give the finger to their employees, GoJet was, and the first round of people who went there should be ashamed. How in the world does not quitting Pinnacle equal no moral high ground?? That's the same as saying if you are at TSA you have no moral high ground. GoJet and Colgan at the time were the under cutters/scope violators, not TSA and Pinnacle (noted that the Colgan pilots had nothing to do with it). If you seriously needed to state that comparison, that shows you have doubts and are trying to rationalize it...this coming from a bystander that could care less if you go to GoJet or not...

The only thing rational in your statement is that TSA formed GoJets to get around scope and Pinnacle bought Colgan for the same reason.

Maybe the Comair pilots should have turned in their resignation and not gone back to work after the strike. I mean, if your airline is so crappy you have to strike, and is shrinking faster than testacles in cold water, why go back? I guess they have no moral high ground either if they say anything anti-Go Jets.

CaptainCarl

For that to be true, I would have to have respected you in the first place

I'm just yankin' your chain, man, from one Uncle Hulie's School of Hard Knocks alum to another.

Bozo

Why don't you apply at EV?

FlyingKat

Obviously you have never had a serious discussion with former Northwest employees to see what they think of Express I/Pinnacle. Nor have you had any discussions with mainline employees about the regional industry in general.

All regional flying is outsourced flying. Every regional has taken flying from somebody else. Its all on the wheel, it all comes around. Gojet is the flavor of the month now, ten years from now Gojet guys will be complaining about somebody else taking their flying. It is what it is. If you want to puff your chest and think you are better than Gojet, go ahead. But the reality is you don't have a clue about this industry, its present state, or its history. Regionals are no longer really airlines, but subcontract operations designed to be interchangeable based on keeping costs down. You try to "raise the bar", your costs go up, and other regionals (and their pilots) line up like vultures to clean the carcass when your costs get too high. It is what it is. Gojets is a vulture just like the others. Mainline pilots could care less until you cross a picket line. To them, Gojets is stealing mainline flying like the others. Until mainline pilots decide to get all this flying on one seniority list this will continue. If you decide to make a career at a regional, you better be ready to start over a couple of times because that is what happens when you work at a contract operation.

Go to a regional, build your time, and get out. That is the reality of this business. If you can't handle it, the world needs lots of accountants.

FlyingKat

Well said +1

N2Core

A few reasons. They are gonna have to merge that seniority list sometime. One merged seniority list is enough for me. Those things never go well.

They are another regional in which I would have to take a $15,000 + pay cut to work at. It's hard for me to justify giving up 4 years of seniority just to start the bottom of another regional. I'm looking at options, just trying at all costs to avoid another ALPA represented regional.

MunkyButtr

Good luck staffing the 900s when all the cqfo's apply to the majors next year.

FlyingKat

It is a crap shoot any way you go. That is the nature of regional airlines and contract operations. Right now Gojet is hiring because their costs are low and that is getting them more flying. A year from now all that can change. All three are similiar operations and places to work and have their issues. Make a business decision and see what is best for you.

IBPilot

Obviously you don't know how to read. I said FORMED. Express I/Pinnacle was FORMED with a handful of Jetstreams flying for Republic. Maybe you are relatively new and need a history lesson before you assume all regionals started out with RJ's.....

bcpilot

Which airline is EV