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Old 11-29-2011, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gsoflyer:1093549
I guess that's what I get for typing a question in a hurry late at night on an iPad keypad. Thank you all for your insightful feedback.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:05 PM
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I guess that's what I get for typing a question in a hurry late at night on an iPad keypad. Thank you all for your insightful feedback.
Oh and by the way, 1329 doesn't count as "late at night" unless you are on the other side of the planet. I'm not saying you couldn't be, just that it's unlikely.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:00 PM
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Does Mumbai India count as the other side of the planet? Look at the statement next to Position under my handle :-)
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gsoflyer:1093671
Does Mumbai India count as the other side of the planet? Look at the statement next to Position under my handle :-)
I'm working from the Android mobile app currently, so I can't see anything other than your handle and your post

And, somedays, I suffer from foot-in-mouth disease Hopefully you understand it was all in good fun.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:42 PM
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Are these new Japanese jet coming Go Jets way?
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Are these new Japanese jet coming Go Jets way?

ooh, ooh, I know the answer to this one!

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Old 12-06-2011, 05:33 PM
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So all I hear is alot of talk about the "evils" of Gojet.... What the heck are the evils? I honestly don't know what everyone's talking about? The pay being lower than others? Pilots being forced to work alot? I just don't get it? I'm not trying to start any B.S. just trying to figure this out.... So if someone can give me a grown up, educated, matter of fact answer please respond...
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So all I hear is alot of talk about the "evils" of Gojet.... What the heck are the evils? I honestly don't know what everyone's talking about? The pay being lower than others? Pilots being forced to work alot? I just don't get it? I'm not trying to start any B.S. just trying to figure this out.... So if someone can give me a grown up, educated, matter of fact answer please respond...
The so-called evils come from Go Jet's beginnings. They were created as an alter-ego carrier by the same owner to circumvent the union and seniority at Trans States Airlines. This in fact, was a despicable deed. HOWEVER, that was long enough ago that today's now unionized Go Jet pilots largely have nothing to do with the beginnings.

You will hear message board drama queens say that GoJet pilots are shunned by other pilots in the hotel van, have problems getting jumpseats, will have problems getting hired at majors etc. I know second-hand that is not true via my brother and a friend, both of whom jumpseated regularly while working for GoJet and both of whom have moved on to greener pastures. You will also hear folks say; "Give it a few years when Trans States pilots are on interview boards. They'll see GJ in your work history and you won't get hired" This is BS. The same was said about pilots going through Comair's and Continental Express' Pay For Training programs (far more insidious to the industry than today's Go Jet) in the 90's. Yet there are no cases, of which I'm aware, of PFTers not getting hired due to writing the check.

When it all comes out in the wash, there is exactly zero ethical difference between working at GoJet and any other regional. Sure, pay and work rules vary, but in the end, they are all bottom feeders in a sense.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tzuk95
So all I hear is alot of talk about the "evils" of Gojet.... What the heck are the evils? I honestly don't know what everyone's talking about? The pay being lower than others? Pilots being forced to work alot? I just don't get it? I'm not trying to start any B.S. just trying to figure this out.... So if someone can give me a grown up, educated, matter of fact answer please respond...
This is how I see if...

“Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works so they have no habit of showing up on Monday,” Gingrich claimed.

“They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash unless it is illegal,” he added.

#Evil
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The so-called evils come from Go Jet's beginnings. They were created as an alter-ego carrier by the same owner to circumvent the union and seniority at Trans States Airlines. This in fact, was a despicable deed. HOWEVER, that was long enough ago that today's now unionized Go Jet pilots largely have nothing to do with the beginnings.

You will hear message board drama queens say that GoJet pilots are shunned by other pilots in the hotel van, have problems getting jumpseats, will have problems getting hired at majors etc. I know second-hand that is not true via my brother and a friend, both of whom jumpseated regularly while working for GoJet and both of whom have moved on to greener pastures. You will also hear folks say; "Give it a few years when Trans States pilots are on interview boards. They'll see GJ in your work history and you won't get hired" This is BS. The same was said about pilots going through Comair's and Continental Express' Pay For Training programs (far more insidious to the industry than today's Go Jet) in the 90's. Yet there are no cases, of which I'm aware, of PFTers not getting hired due to writing the check.

When it all comes out in the wash, there is exactly zero ethical difference between working at GoJet and any other regional. Sure, pay and work rules vary, but in the end, they are all bottom feeders in a sense.
Some of this is true..but GOJETS is well below even the bottom feeders...union represented??? that is a joke.. even though I am not an avid ALPA supporter, ALPA looks like angels compared to the teamsters.
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