Gojet dilemma
09-01-2011, 08:42 PM
#131
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It's my understanding AA scope prevented 70 seaters. NOTHING prevented TSA from operating 70 seaters for UAL. I believe you are incorrect. The CRJ700's could've easily been placed on one certificate, one list.
09-01-2011, 08:44 PM
#132
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You are misinformed. AA scope doesn't allow 50+ seat jets for their regional partners period. Example is Chatauqua
09-01-2011, 08:48 PM
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Also, what stopped them from being on 2 separate certificates but one pilot group list like RAH?
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09-02-2011, 06:20 AM
#138
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Trans States pilots HAD the opportunity to fly those CRJ-7's. Hulas was going to be REQUIRED to have a different certificate anyway due to the AA scope language. Trans States pilots, MEC and ALPO through pure arrogance lost the flying. The TSA pilots wanted more money to fly them (which is understandable) but their arrogant MEC & pilot group flushed the flying away by puffing out their chest and voting NO. Hind sight is always 20/20. The TSA pilots SHOULD have voted yes (to at LEAST get the a/c on property to be flown by TSA pilots) FIRST then worked on the pay issue later. But, now they just blame everyone but themselves for the whole debacle.
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09-02-2011, 06:37 AM
#139
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Gojet Airlines, I work for Gojet and it is the best thing I have done yet. I used to work for Comair and at first I thought it was the best thing I had done but after being at Gojet I see how much time I wasted at Comair. I circled the drain at Comair and almost got flushed but I got out of the bowl before that happened.
Gojet is not perfect and it is a regional and as one poster said a long time ago on here "there is no such thing as a good regional". Gojet believe it or not is a good bunch of people and they have the best positive attitude I have seen yet. At Comair it was always a battle with scheduling and always being screwed somehow. Here so far everyone is so pro-active it is a 180 from what I was used to. I actually call scheduling to see if there is anything I can do for them. (yeh surprised me too)
I never back stabbed anyone to take this job, I am not a scab. I never crossed a picket line or flew struck work. Heck Alpa sent the United guys here does that make them scabs too? I am just trying to get ahead and anyone that says I will not be able to get a job later on is so full of BS. I learned all of this is BS when one day I was DH on Freedom when I was at Comair, plane was full so I volunteered to JS to get a pax on. Turns out the Captain had less than 2500 hours and the FO had 600 hours. Here I was at OH with 7000 hours. (dual rated) *** did I do wrong? At that point I learned I am out for me in this cut throat world. I can stand on my soap box only so long before the bills need paying.
Gojet is a good place, it is small and everyone knows your name. The training is good and the checkride is not easy. The aircraft are good the flight attendants are hot and the schedule is for the most part very productive. The pay is regional pay not the best and not the least. Upgrade time well who knows last Captain I flew with had been here 9 months.
When I was at Comair all we ever heard was "Delta wants to get rid of the 50 seaters" Well Gojet has no 50's, CRJ700's only! When you look at all the other DCI carriers look at their fleet.
Now as far as all these guys saying "oooh if I find out your are a Gojet pilot I will not let you on my jumpseat!" Horse Hockey! Never been turned down yet and if someone did turn me down well guess what when I turn down someone from their company and they ask why I will say well go ask your buddy Captain XXXXX he turned me down. All these posters on here that spew that trash are just that, trash they are just ****ed off chair flyers.
Ok now I have said everything good about Gojet, I will include some bad. They as of now do not pay for your hotel while in training. That can be pretty tough if you do not have money in the bank. Cost me about $2000 while I was in training but you can do it cheaper and a lot of guys did. My accountant will have a field day with my expenses but in the long run I am still out my money. It can be done for less there is the Pilot Projects which charge $70 a week I think.
If anyone is considering Gojet as an employer do not hesitate to PM me for a phone number to answer your questions. I AM VERY HAPPY I AM HERE AND IT WAS A GOOD DECISION FOR ME!
Gojet is not perfect and it is a regional and as one poster said a long time ago on here "there is no such thing as a good regional". Gojet believe it or not is a good bunch of people and they have the best positive attitude I have seen yet. At Comair it was always a battle with scheduling and always being screwed somehow. Here so far everyone is so pro-active it is a 180 from what I was used to. I actually call scheduling to see if there is anything I can do for them. (yeh surprised me too)
I never back stabbed anyone to take this job, I am not a scab. I never crossed a picket line or flew struck work. Heck Alpa sent the United guys here does that make them scabs too? I am just trying to get ahead and anyone that says I will not be able to get a job later on is so full of BS. I learned all of this is BS when one day I was DH on Freedom when I was at Comair, plane was full so I volunteered to JS to get a pax on. Turns out the Captain had less than 2500 hours and the FO had 600 hours. Here I was at OH with 7000 hours. (dual rated) *** did I do wrong? At that point I learned I am out for me in this cut throat world. I can stand on my soap box only so long before the bills need paying.
Gojet is a good place, it is small and everyone knows your name. The training is good and the checkride is not easy. The aircraft are good the flight attendants are hot and the schedule is for the most part very productive. The pay is regional pay not the best and not the least. Upgrade time well who knows last Captain I flew with had been here 9 months.
When I was at Comair all we ever heard was "Delta wants to get rid of the 50 seaters" Well Gojet has no 50's, CRJ700's only! When you look at all the other DCI carriers look at their fleet.
Now as far as all these guys saying "oooh if I find out your are a Gojet pilot I will not let you on my jumpseat!" Horse Hockey! Never been turned down yet and if someone did turn me down well guess what when I turn down someone from their company and they ask why I will say well go ask your buddy Captain XXXXX he turned me down. All these posters on here that spew that trash are just that, trash they are just ****ed off chair flyers.
Ok now I have said everything good about Gojet, I will include some bad. They as of now do not pay for your hotel while in training. That can be pretty tough if you do not have money in the bank. Cost me about $2000 while I was in training but you can do it cheaper and a lot of guys did. My accountant will have a field day with my expenses but in the long run I am still out my money. It can be done for less there is the Pilot Projects which charge $70 a week I think.
If anyone is considering Gojet as an employer do not hesitate to PM me for a phone number to answer your questions. I AM VERY HAPPY I AM HERE AND IT WAS A GOOD DECISION FOR ME!
09-02-2011, 06:40 AM
#140
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A lot of talk about jumpseat denial. I'll add my two pennies and mention that we just had a b***h of an FO from Deltroid demand our JS a few trips ago. The CA just looked at her and told her to wait in the jetway. During that time I heard the oxygen masks being tested on both sides (yes includes mine) for an extended amount of time. For safety reason, I wanted to make sure my mask worked properly. She didnt make the flight!!
My point here is it's not my JS to deny but I'll damn well push to make sure any GJ (specifically CA) will not make it on.
It's like drain-o, cleaning out any progress we make for a better future.
My point here is it's not my JS to deny but I'll damn well push to make sure any GJ (specifically CA) will not make it on.
It's like drain-o, cleaning out any progress we make for a better future.
Why didn't your Captain have the balls to just tell her no right at the beginning? No need to make up some BS reason, just say NO.
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