What about gojet airlines
01-02-2011, 04:41 PM
#41
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Again, you guys would bi^tch if your ice cream was too cold. Why don't you do YOUR job and quit worrying about everyone else's.
This website never ceases to amaze me at the actual LACK of information it provides. Instead it more so seems to promote more "water cooler" rumors and CRAP from puffy chest people that would never act this way away from the comfort of their keyboard.
This website never ceases to amaze me at the actual LACK of information it provides. Instead it more so seems to promote more "water cooler" rumors and CRAP from puffy chest people that would never act this way away from the comfort of their keyboard.
ok...its a message board. its here specifically for "water cooler rumors" and the opinions of professional pilots or as you call it..."crap" if you want hard objective information may i suggest wikipedia.org?
01-02-2011, 05:48 PM
#42
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Having first hand experience with TSH my advice is to stay away from any company under the ownership of TSH, Compass included. If you want details you can PM me. Skywest is hiring and so is Eagle. Unless Gojet hires you into the left seat as a direct hire, I wouldn't subject myself to working conditions at a TSH company for the elusive "quick upgrade" that can stretch out even beyond the current FO pay scale. I'm telling you this because I made the mistake of chasing a quick upgrade, and if I had the chance to do it all over again I would place quality of life and pay above the left seat mirage which repeatedly claims its victims in the regional airline desert. The accuracy of the jumpseat drama we read so much about, in my opinion, is irrelevant... the mere pay and working conditions should be enough to consider any TSH airline a last resort. Unless you've already been turned down by Skywest, Eagle, and just about every other regional out there... I would seriously reconsider.
01-02-2011, 05:57 PM
#43
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Zapata -
I'll agree with the agenda part, but you were saying that those things DON'T happen, and I'm just not sure that they don't is any more an accurate portrayal of facts than saying they ALWAYS happen.
The 'defenders' you will often notice seem to come from the same place in the majority - those that you would EXPECT to defend; and there have been detractors from the ranks too.
I have no more reason to believe you that those situations don't occur and more often than I do the many others on this board who say they do.
Remember what size we are talking about here as a portion of the population. The small population overall that frequents internet message boards (demographic on top of that), and then the percentage within the forums who voice their opinions one way or another regarding this particular airline (even smaller still and often the same posters over and over again).
As for Fox news spinning things; that is a matter of opinion and seems to be directly related to political leanings which need to go no further on this post/forum. If you think spin is one-sided then there is no help.
USMCFLYR
I'll agree with the agenda part, but you were saying that those things DON'T happen, and I'm just not sure that they don't is any more an accurate portrayal of facts than saying they ALWAYS happen.
The 'defenders' you will often notice seem to come from the same place in the majority - those that you would EXPECT to defend; and there have been detractors from the ranks too.
I have no more reason to believe you that those situations don't occur and more often than I do the many others on this board who say they do.
Remember what size we are talking about here as a portion of the population. The small population overall that frequents internet message boards (demographic on top of that), and then the percentage within the forums who voice their opinions one way or another regarding this particular airline (even smaller still and often the same posters over and over again).
As for Fox news spinning things; that is a matter of opinion and seems to be directly related to political leanings which need to go no further on this post/forum. If you think spin is one-sided then there is no help.
USMCFLYR
It also seems that your inclined to place equal credence to either camp for equality's sake. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. To me, such an approach is unrealistic. No need to for feelgoodness (if you will) by trying to keep everyone happy. IMHO, this issue on internet forums is well skewed to the side of those exaggerating the proverbial blacklisting.
As for my Fox News example, that is just what it was....an example. That is what is usually meant by "i.e." No injection of political leanings exists when it is an example. Or, perhaps there would be a better element of feelgood if I would have made an equitable example by including another television news network just for equality's sake. I only mentioned Fox because it is the best example, IMHO. Again, no expression of politics. To make everyone happy? Sorry, not my style.
BTW; I didn't ask for help, nor do I need it.
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01-02-2011, 06:07 PM
#44
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01-02-2011, 06:17 PM
#45
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This would probably be an accurate statement.
Nope. No feelgoodness here. I'm an outside observer here in this debate and I don't have a dog in the fight. I do think about the others who come onto APC to read the opinions and the ones who make career decisions based on what they read - for good AND bad.
Why should I NOT place equal credence Zapata. I don't know you any better than I know any of the others who have an opposite view. Like I said in my INITIAL post. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween.
No need to soapbox your political leanings in either direction.
You have been on this forum long enough to know thsat there are certain subjects (buzzwords included) that can start a thread down the wrong road. As a moderator, I do my best to try and steer threads from those zones which may lead to Reminders, Infractions, or a thread being closed.
Don't take it for more than it was. A 'friendly' rudder steer. That is my style
Not really sure what HELP you think I am trying to give. I'm interjecting a little viewpoint from a casual observer. That is what message boards are for 
, and for those others reading this posts to take on board and make up there own minds. One way or another.
USMCFLYR
It also seems that your inclined to place equal credence to either camp for equality's sake. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. To me, such an approach is unrealistic. No need to for feelgoodness (if you will) by trying to keep everyone happy.
Why should I NOT place equal credence Zapata. I don't know you any better than I know any of the others who have an opposite view. Like I said in my INITIAL post. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween.
As for my Fox News example, that is just what it was....an example. That is what is usually meant by "i.e." No injection of political leanings exists when it is an example. Or, perhaps there would be a better element of feelgood if I would have made an equitable example by including another television news network just for equality's sake. Sorry, not my style.
You have been on this forum long enough to know thsat there are certain subjects (buzzwords included) that can start a thread down the wrong road. As a moderator, I do my best to try and steer threads from those zones which may lead to Reminders, Infractions, or a thread being closed.
Don't take it for more than it was. A 'friendly' rudder steer. That is my style
BTW; I didn't ask for help, nor do I need it.
, and for those others reading this posts to take on board and make up there own minds. One way or another.USMCFLYR
01-02-2011, 06:27 PM
#46
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This would probably be an accurate statement.
Nope. No feelgoodness here. I'm an outside observer here in this debate and I don't have a dog in the fight. I do think about the others who come onto APC to read the opinions and the ones who make career decisions based on what they read - for good AND bad.
Why should I NOT place equal credence Zapata. I don't know you any better than I know any of the others who have an opposite view. Like I said in my INITIAL post. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween.
No need to soapbox your political leanings in either direction.
You have been on this forum long enough to know thsat there are certain subjects (buzzwords included) that can start a thread down the wrong road. As a moderator, I do my best to try and steer threads from those zones which may lead to Reminders, Infractions, or a thread being closed.
Don't take it for more than it was. A 'friendly' rudder steer. That is my style
USMCFLYR
Nope. No feelgoodness here. I'm an outside observer here in this debate and I don't have a dog in the fight. I do think about the others who come onto APC to read the opinions and the ones who make career decisions based on what they read - for good AND bad.
Why should I NOT place equal credence Zapata. I don't know you any better than I know any of the others who have an opposite view. Like I said in my INITIAL post. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween.
No need to soapbox your political leanings in either direction.
You have been on this forum long enough to know thsat there are certain subjects (buzzwords included) that can start a thread down the wrong road. As a moderator, I do my best to try and steer threads from those zones which may lead to Reminders, Infractions, or a thread being closed.
Don't take it for more than it was. A 'friendly' rudder steer. That is my style
USMCFLYR
01-02-2011, 06:53 PM
#47
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Yes. It was a general comment. Not you specific.
In this case, ANYONE thinking that one media outlet is spin-free more than the other OR one's particular opinion of a certain airline or management company is good or bad are opinions that are strongly held. I doubt there is much help in trying to change those opinions.
I'm not sure in the time I've been on this forum if I have EVER seen someone who was entrenched in one idea or the other EVER change their mind!
We sure try hard though
USMCFLYR
In this case, ANYONE thinking that one media outlet is spin-free more than the other OR one's particular opinion of a certain airline or management company is good or bad are opinions that are strongly held. I doubt there is much help in trying to change those opinions.
I'm not sure in the time I've been on this forum if I have EVER seen someone who was entrenched in one idea or the other EVER change their mind!
We sure try hard though USMCFLYR
01-02-2011, 08:15 PM
#49
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What does it even matter? I've met people all over this industry (UAL, CAL, Southwest, SkyWest, Republic, ASA, Shuttle, XJT, even TSA) that could care less about GoJet. I'm sorry to say, but you and your flamebait buddies are 1%'ers.
All regional pilots want more money, I know. But to most of us, being at a regional is not a career company, it's a stepping stone. So why are you and your buddies wasting so much of your time screaming and yelling at everyone when we all know the day you get hired at a major (or your flying job of choice), you will care less about the bickering regional pilots.
All regional pilots want more money, I know. But to most of us, being at a regional is not a career company, it's a stepping stone. So why are you and your buddies wasting so much of your time screaming and yelling at everyone when we all know the day you get hired at a major (or your flying job of choice), you will care less about the bickering regional pilots.
01-02-2011, 10:25 PM
#50
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I worked at GoJet for over four years. The maintenance was/is horrible. I also have flown a/c with multiple (i.e. 6,7,8,9,10 +) M.E.L.'s. The management there is typical Trans States operation. HORRIBLE!!
I chuckle at these "high & mightly" TSA pilots puffing out there chest screaming & yelling about the pilots at GoJet when it was THEIR OWN PILOTS who initially jumped over to help get G7 off the ground. (insert glass houses comment here)
I wouldn't advise going there but you can make up your own mind. I commuted for over four years on many different airlines and NEVER once was denied a ride because I worked for G7. NEVER!! Like I said, you're and adult. You make the decision.
I chuckle at these "high & mightly" TSA pilots puffing out there chest screaming & yelling about the pilots at GoJet when it was THEIR OWN PILOTS who initially jumped over to help get G7 off the ground. (insert glass houses comment here)
I wouldn't advise going there but you can make up your own mind. I commuted for over four years on many different airlines and NEVER once was denied a ride because I worked for G7. NEVER!! Like I said, you're and adult. You make the decision.
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