What about gojet airlines
04-10-2012, 04:50 PM
#251
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How about having some class and maintaining a bit of professionalism?
I wonder how many of the whiners here on APC ever had their a$$es kicked once or twice for running their yap? Let alone suspensions and terminations... The world isn't fair. Do your job, live your life, load your gun, and hug your kids, it will all be over soon enough...
04-10-2012, 04:53 PM
#252
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Incorrect.Compass was created because NWA wanted to get around a scope clause in the pilot contract.NWA said they would allow a limited number of guys to fly these planes , as long as the CP would be able to flow up, but more importantly that NWA guys would be able to flow down and still have jobs in the event of a furlough situation. Fast forward, the flow is gone but Compass is still flying for Delta.
04-10-2012, 10:45 PM
#254
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Unbelievable. I really think that this is quite misunderstood at the new hire level. I'm sure you're bidding on the 900 flying for colgan and this flying will be at or below your 700 compensation level with way below contract level on top of that. I've heard first hand from G7 pilots say that "the writing is on that wall" personally for TSA pilots. You've definitely shown your professionalism thank you very much. BTW coming from a furloughed united pilot... I expect nothing but the best.
04-11-2012, 05:41 AM
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Incorrect.Compass was created because NWA wanted to get around a scope clause in the pilot contract.NWA said they would allow a limited number of guys to fly these planes , as long as the CP would be able to flow up, but more importantly that NWA guys would be able to flow down and still have jobs in the event of a furlough situation. Fast forward, the flow is gone but Compass is still flying for Delta.
It didn't always have 'better' pay rates.
None of you mentioned freedom.
It didn't always have 'better' pay rates.
None of you mentioned freedom.
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04-11-2012, 06:09 AM
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04-11-2012, 07:39 AM
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I am hearing that Gojet is loosing it's back on the DCI flying. The business plan of bidding flying at a loss in the attempt to expand their flying, and in time, renegotiate the contract to a profitable level, has proven to be a short term boom and a long term disaster. I wouldn't be surprised to see this operation experience the same fate as that of Freedom and Mesa.
04-11-2012, 07:42 AM
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I am hearing that Gojet is loosing it's back on the DCI flying. The business plan of bidding flying at a loss in the attempt to expand their flying, and in time, renegotiate the contract to a profitable level, has proven to be a short term boom and a long term disaster. I wouldn't be surprised to see this operation experience the same fate as that of Freedom and Mesa.
04-11-2012, 08:16 AM
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No, you're incorrect. You do realize I am a pre merger NWA pilot, yes? Compass was created while NWA was in bankruptcy. Bankruptcy was the leverage that Steenland had to create it. And the flow up is still intact for those who were on the property before the sale to TranStates Holdings. The Flow Down still exists as well, becuase if it's dissolved Delta management must remove 76 seaters from the DCI fleet. That was ALPA that negotiated that. And they did it in while in bankruptcy negotiations. That flow down saved pilots from bring furloughed in 2008. And I did mention Freedom. I said they don't exist anymore. Plus, most didn't think kindly of Freedom pilots when it was around.
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